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The latest outrage by the TSA.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/11/local/la-me-arabic12-2010feb12

America is a free country. Except at its airports.

Anyone who thinks this is cool should go back and read their Orwell.

Kudos to this kid, for challenging the TSA in court.

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elanya
Feb. 14th, 2010 10:19 pm (UTC)
Man, I wish him luck - TSA makes me so cranky! Probably not as cranky as it makes you, but still... Cranky.
cthulhu80
Feb. 14th, 2010 10:22 pm (UTC)
Sorry to hear such news...and when I say "sorry" I really mean it, because I'm Italian and I see this kind of things happening every single day...and I'm totally sick!!
uncledark
Feb. 14th, 2010 10:22 pm (UTC)
The what???
madwriter
Feb. 14th, 2010 10:41 pm (UTC)
And this is why I still drive any time I can get somewhere with a 24-hour period. My 15-hour drives from Virginia to Illinois are still a lot easier on all levels than the flights I used to make.
animeshon
Feb. 14th, 2010 10:46 pm (UTC)
That is absolutely ridiculous! Next thing you know it'll be illegal to fly with an Arabic name!
nimitzbrood
Feb. 14th, 2010 10:50 pm (UTC)
Man I've been embarrassed to be an US denizen for years now. This stuff just keeps getting worse and worse and worse...
epiphanist1248
Feb. 14th, 2010 11:06 pm (UTC)
Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
little_ribbit
Feb. 14th, 2010 11:15 pm (UTC)
I was so glad to hear that he's suing with the help of the ACLU, and that he's articulate enough to make this a potential example case.
thewatcherseye
Feb. 14th, 2010 11:17 pm (UTC)
Lawd....
What an idiot! We live in a post 911 world. It takes a special kind of stupid to travel with Arabic anything.
grrm
Feb. 15th, 2010 01:55 am (UTC)
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Sad to think that an American citizen can be called "stupid" for learning a foreign language. The stupidity here is the TSA's.
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saxster
Feb. 14th, 2010 11:24 pm (UTC)
George W. Bush and the Patriot Act, and "Democrat" Obama just amps up the same outrages even further. At least some Americans are starting to see clearly that the "security" isn't for the terrorists, it's for us.
raeyn
Feb. 14th, 2010 11:37 pm (UTC)

It's a matter of acceptable risk, isn't it. Lawsuit culture means that if you risk getting sued by a moron who dumps hot coffee in their lap, then obviously, the risk of dying on an airplane -has- to be zero if the airlines don't want to get sued by some cash-chasing retard. The simple fact of the matter is that life -is- a risk, and the US and the UK are doing a bash-up job letting the terrorists win by forcing the hands of those who make policy.

In short, blah blah blah, blah blah blah, I'm an evil anti-American person (as I've often been told) for exercising my patriotic duty to my two countries in calling out the people and the government for their apathy and lack of concern for their own freedom. 'Cause freedom isn't safety, and this 'safety' sure as hell ain't freedom.
coleoptera
Feb. 15th, 2010 03:52 am (UTC)
How about that - we live in a country where our legal system specifically allows for a party who believes they have been wronged to ask a legal authority to make a determination in the matter. It's almost as if that's the fair and appropriate thing to do!

In the case you cited, seemingly without particular knowledge of the case particulars, the plaintiff in question was burned severely and discovered, after attempting to have the company compensate for some of her extensive medical expenses, that they knew about the problem, had received hundreds of complaints involving injuries and had decided not to warn people about the problem or do anything about it because they just didn't think it was a problem big enough for their radar. That's why the jury initially awarded punitive damages - it's for that kind of crass behavior that potentially affects more people than just the wronged party. Trying to reduce that kind of problem to a 'oh, you can sue for millions because you spill hot coffee on yourself' is at best uninformed. You don't often hear that argument when people talk about the Pinto.

I'm glad this kid is standing up for himself but more important for basic civil rights.
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the cofee lawsuit wasnt frivolous! - fabricdragon - Feb. 15th, 2010 08:45 pm (UTC) - Expand
saladinahmed
Feb. 14th, 2010 11:43 pm (UTC)
"Except at its airports."

Thanks for saying so, GRRM. And yeah, thumbs up to this guy not lying down and taking it... I *always* get 'randomly' (heh.) screened when I travel by plane, and it just plain sucks. The last time I did an international flight I was subjected to a pretty scary, HOURS-long sequestered 'interview' that was blatantly unconstitutional while my wife looked on in fear from the other side of the room. Questions included "Are you a member of any special interest groups?"(!?) And (swear to God) "Do you have any martial-arts training?" Becuase, you know, if I was secretly a shao lin-trained jihadi, of COURSE I'd be honest about that with the TSA!

Anyway, it may not change the way the government creeps do business, but it's reassuring in a 'yes, there ARE decent human beings out there' way when someone at least says 'hey, this is messed up.' So thanks!
tikehau
Feb. 15th, 2010 09:27 am (UTC)
LoL.. You're pointing out something about the Americans I always found amusing. What's the point in being questioned in such way? "Are you a terrorist?", what of it, IF I'm a terrorist I'm going to tell it to you???
No liquids, no lighters, BUT you can bring with you up to 5 boxes of matches. Probably, someone calculated that the sulphur in 4 match boxes is not critical, while in 6 is...

Nitwit protocol application.

The only other country in which I saw something similar was P.R. of China. While we were landing, the plane crew asked to the passengers to answer to a "serious" questionnaire about aviarian flu (it was 2006). Chinese were worried about aviarian flu entering their country (!). Of course, at the airport, a bored official was collecting hundreds of questionnaires without giving any look to them. Pointless.
leilijon
Feb. 15th, 2010 12:01 am (UTC)
Ugh. They've really taken things too far. This is absolutely disgusting.
monksp
Feb. 15th, 2010 12:12 am (UTC)
I think I'm most creeped out by the section that said words like "bomb" and "terrorist" may have alarmed authorities. I'd imagine that if they're talking about flash cards, each card would have only a single word, so I'm guessing that both bomb and terrorist were present with no surrounding context, just the word itself floating next to its arabic counterpart. Are we really at the point where we're scared of the words themselves, and not the idea behind it? Didn't George Carlin teach us better?
dumnbunny
Feb. 15th, 2010 12:34 am (UTC)
An acquaintance of mine took a job which had him flying all over the world. We often spoke about his travels, and one thing he mentioned was the care he had to take when considering what to bring with him. There were certain countries you just didn't visit while carrying certain books and other media unless you had a desire to be a guest of the authorities for awhile. The US shouldn't be one of those countries, and yet ...
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