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I have reached a final settlement with Guardians of Order, the Canadian games company that published the role-playing game based on A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE before going under last year.

We're now all square, and that license has officially expired. It is not the ending that I would have hoped for, but I'm glad to have concluded things amicably.

As part of our settlement, I have acquired the remaining stock of the deluxe, limited edition of the RPG worldbook, a huge and lavishly illustrated hardcover. I will be listing the book for sale on the "Signed Books" page of my website in the very near future, but I thought I'd give my Not-a-Bloggers a little advance notice.

If any of you want to snag a copy, the price is $100, which includes book rate shipping within the United States (overseas is more). This is a big and beautiful book with lots of great artwork, and tons of background material on the world of Westeros that may be of interest even to those who do not play role-playing games. And needless to say, I would be glad to sign and inscribe the book on request. You can get a look at the cover and some of the graphics by scrolling back through the Archives sections of the news page.

(Please email if you are interested, don't comment about it here).

There will be another RPG in the future. I am considering offers from several other companies right now, and expect to have a new license to announce within the next couple of months,

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mythfish
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:10 pm (UTC)
There was supposed to be a free GM screen and introductory adventure sent to those of us who preordered the game all those ages ago...I never heard what happened to those. Do you know if they even got printed? If they did, did you happen to get any of them, because I'd still like mine...I emailed Mark about it ages ago and never got any kind of response.
hippoiathanatoi
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:16 pm (UTC)
Good to hear that the license has finally gotten disentangled. It was a pleasure to work with GoO on it, and it was just such a shame that it didn't go further. A lot of room for some nice supplements and sourcebooks.
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falseprophet81
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:14 pm (UTC)
Its unfortunately that the company went out of order. I found the Game of Throne's RPG to be a great product. The book was a top notch gaming product.
thebitterguy
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:18 pm (UTC)
It truly is an awesome book. I keep it on the coffee table in my sitting room.
7wrc
May. 2nd, 2007 03:41 am (UTC)
As I do :)
childdoll
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:22 pm (UTC)
Cool, thanks for the heads up!

It's a shame that more supplements will not be made in the furture though.
I love the game so much ^_^
selenation
May. 7th, 2007 11:14 pm (UTC)
You are right.
I too love the game
cuddlycthulhu
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:23 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry, sir, perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place on your website, but what is your e-mail address? Or can we e-mail you at grrm@livejournal.com? I'm interested in the book and I'd like to place an order if I can.
eefster
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:35 pm (UTC)
It's not the easiest page to find, but his main site has an Order Page that lists his email as georr AT aol [DOT] com.
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jaelie
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:28 pm (UTC)
Congratulations on getting your license back!

I got my two copies (one deluxe, one normal) at GenCon for my husband and I when it released. It is an absolutely gorgeous book. Even if we didn't play RPGs, it would be an awesome source book for the artwork and world information.

I can hardly wait to see who picks up the license, and hope they keep up the quality!
wyldkyss
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:36 pm (UTC)
I seen the book in the stores around here, the illustration work is lovely. I've considered getting a copy but just never got around to it.
ladyarkham
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:53 pm (UTC)
I can't speak as to the rules, because I got the deluxe book for someone else and havne't been able to read it, but it is gorgeous, and well worth having from what I've seen.
chgriffen
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:46 pm (UTC)
Good luck with trying to have a new version done!

I would hope for a less-traditional, more story-oriented design this time around, rather than another D20 version.
ammitnox
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:48 pm (UTC)
I think an Amber-style diceless system would be perfect. ;)
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xraytheenforcer
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:51 pm (UTC)
Glad to hear that everything got sorted with the RPG and GoO. I'll be curious to see how the next version of the RPG shapes up. :)
morpheus_17
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:53 pm (UTC)

I have no idea if they'd be interested, but I reccoment Alderac Entertainement (AEG). They're roll and keep system would fit beautifully.
dajamieson
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:58 pm (UTC)
It was a fantastic book - really a shame the line didn't get any further.

There was a pdf adventure produced (just a 4-5 page thingy) that was available for download on GoO's website, but as far as I know the screen never materialised.
chasman
Mar. 7th, 2007 07:04 pm (UTC)
An anonymous man in a book store suggested your books to me, and I was instantly hooked. Thank you for hard work.

Do you think that your books will be translated into an MMO like Everquest, World of Warcraft, etc?

the_lady_snow
Mar. 16th, 2007 07:21 am (UTC)
"MMO like Everquest, World of Warcraft, etc?"
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
then i will forget about the outside world altogether!
i need to go outside ONCE in a while.
OK,if the books are translated,DON'T TELL ME.
i like my world of dragons,~'the sword of truth'~,rings,elves,faerie,etc...
if i ever get wealthy enough to quit my job,i hope someone is there to get me outside and do important stuff, like going to cons.
wait...'futureworld' is on tv...
gotta go watch the other monitor in my life,

the_lady_snow ;P
sudyn
Mar. 7th, 2007 07:17 pm (UTC)
oh that's so very tempting!
but I can't. D=
serpentstar
Mar. 7th, 2007 07:19 pm (UTC)
I'm really glad to hear that you managed to get some kind of settlement out of Guardians of Order. They could be... tricky to deal with, this last couple of years! I did a fair bit of writing for them, and seem to have timed it quite badly as they went under owing me a fair amount.
grrm
Mar. 7th, 2007 07:27 pm (UTC)
bankruptcy
I am sorry about that, serpentstar. You were not alone in that, alas.

Bankruptcy is always frustrating for unsecured creditors like us, and I've had to deal with more than my share of it this past year. Not only in regards to Guardians of Order, but also with iBooks, who had the rights to ten of my WILD CARDS books... and now Publishers Group West, which acquired all of the warehoused stock from iBooks and Byron Preiss Visual Publications, has itself gone under in the AMS bankruptcy (those last two WILD CARDS books in particular could turn out to be quite rare).

Here's hoping the rest of my licensees and publishers all stay afloat for many decades to come!
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missmollygrue
Mar. 7th, 2007 07:29 pm (UTC)
Ooooo...I hope you're entertaining an offer from Fantasy Flight Games. It would be a great excuse to come to Minneapolis, not to mention give me a great excuse to shake your hand. =-D

Sympathies that your legal mess was...a mess. You were certainly due for some good news.
ramik
Mar. 7th, 2007 08:04 pm (UTC)
Seeing ASOIAF statted up for RuneQuest would be interesting . . . not least because (unless I'm remembering wrong) Wild Cards grew out of GRRM's old Superworld game, which itself was an RQ variant, so it would be sort of bringing things full circle.
hippoiathanatoi
Mar. 7th, 2007 08:32 pm (UTC)
Mongoose previously expressed some interest in trying to help out GoO when the word of the problems first came out, so who knows what might be happening down the road. I expect if they got the license that they'd probably go the route of doing the game both in d20 and RQ versions.

I wonder how one would convert something like the social status/house mechanics from GoO's game to RQ... Hrm.
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idemandjustice
Mar. 7th, 2007 08:33 pm (UTC)
I'll have to check funds with my husband... I remember spotting the book for $50 and that was a little more than I can afford. :(
idemandjustice
Mar. 7th, 2007 08:34 pm (UTC)
Not that it didn't look like it was worth the money. Only that, well, I don't have a lot of it.
odiedragon
Mar. 7th, 2007 09:07 pm (UTC)
Slightly off topic
Speaking of signed books, you don't happen to have a two copies of Dreamsongs lying around somewhere do you?

I know I can order unsigned copies from amazon.co.uk. However, the only time I could get them signed would be the weekend you're in Indy, and I have to be at a work function that Saturday. I want to give them as gifts to a couple people in our wedding this August.

If you don't want to comment here, you can email me at ckauzlarich at gmail dot com. Thanks George :)
ymmasymmasymmas
Mar. 7th, 2007 09:45 pm (UTC)
This doesn't really pertain to this that or the other; however, i was just wondering if there was a poster map of westeros other than the one that comes with the one book. I would really love one to display on my wall, but I didn't really want the one with the book because it wasn't as big as i'd have liked it to be. anyway, see, i told you this didn't pertain to anything. i was just wondering.
hippoiathanatoi
Mar. 7th, 2007 09:55 pm (UTC)
By "the one book", do you mean the poster map in the RPG?

There's one other poster map, which you can be found in Dragon #307. I'm pretty sure it's the same size as the one in the GoO RPG, however.
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unovian
Mar. 7th, 2007 10:00 pm (UTC)
As an owner of the Deluxe edition of this book I strongly advise that you get it. It's lovely! :) Good to hear that more RPG stuff is on the way! *thumbs up* You sure take care of us, George!
stegoking
Mar. 7th, 2007 10:07 pm (UTC)
Oh My Gawd!! Why aren't you working on the book!!!111 I'm an idiot!

(Figured I'd slide that in before someone else did.)

I enjoyed this book, though I've never actually played it. (Much like the board game, alas.) The Northeast BWB is way too interested in alcohol to find time for unabashed geekery.

But I for one want more merchandise. Action figures. A massively multiplayer online game. A Strong Belwas sex doll.

You know, the good stuff.
stegoking
Mar. 7th, 2007 10:08 pm (UTC)
I just realized I look like a total fanboy with that avatar. My bad.
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dreamer_cynic
Mar. 7th, 2007 10:12 pm (UTC)
I really liked the system that Guardians of the Order did with the standard d20 rules. They modified it very well to fit the style of the setting. Do you think that if another d20 based company picked up the liscense that they would (for the most part) keep the system as it is an merely expand upon it or is it more likely that the system will be completely redone?
ecnam37
Mar. 7th, 2007 10:17 pm (UTC)
Good news
This is excellent news. GoO put out a good product, and I only hope the successor can do the same. I also have digital copies of the two created adventure modules for the game (tracking down the GM screen, but it's tough); I have direct permission from one of the module authors and indirect permission from the other to host them and hand them out freely so long as they're credited, though it'd be best to get Mr. Martin's opinion. Provided he says it's OK, I'll put up the link where they're at.

Also, forgive me for directly contradicting the original post, but where do we email you to express interest in purchasing the deluxe edition?
hippoiathanatoi
Mar. 7th, 2007 10:40 pm (UTC)
Re: Good news
ecnam,

See this post by Eefster, it points to GRRM's e-mail address. :)
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ecnam37
Mar. 7th, 2007 10:20 pm (UTC)
Oh, I suppose you're the "Jason Durall" I've heard about. We've never spoken directly, but J Scoble contacted you for me and said that you gave me permission (through the fan forums we started) to host the Bonds of Blood and Honor adventure (Thiara spoke to me separately about Trouble in Pembrooke).
jdurall
Mar. 8th, 2007 10:09 pm (UTC)
I am indeed that guy. Feel free to post it wherever. I'm just sorry that it never saw print, and didn't make its way to all of the folks who deserved to get copies along with their deluxe editions.
shroud1
Mar. 7th, 2007 10:46 pm (UTC)
Thrilled to hear that the AGoT RPG will live again...I already have the deluxe edition, but I think a second copy would be a worthy investment since we're starting our campaign as soon as the last player finishes the novels.

Any thoughts about approaching Citadel Minatures or Hogshead games in England about producing both the RPG and/or a minatures game for the books? Alot of us gamers have always thought that wars between the various houses would make an excellent wargame. After all you have several factions, each with a unique flavor and style...food for thought.

Now to eagerly await the next novel.
hippoiathanatoi
Mar. 7th, 2007 11:41 pm (UTC)
Testors once announced that it would be producing a miniatures skirmishing game. All sorts of problems have come up with their announced product lines, but they did exhibit some miniatures and terrain at Gencon (I think), they did produce at least a draft set of rules designed by Andy Card (initially, anyways; I think it was then done in-house after he was hired by Blizzard), and Tom Meier said a few months ago that he had been told to send his master miniatures to a third party for (IIIRC) mass production.

No word on it since then, but I'd guess that if Testors ultimately doesn't do a miniatures game, it'll be awhile before the license is free and clear.
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