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The Jets made another huge splash in the NFL offseason yesterday, trading for the talented but troubled Pittsburgs Steeler wide receiver Santonio Holmes. Holmes comes to New York complete with a four-game suspension for violation of the league's substance abuse policy, so the Jets don't actually get him on the field until game five. He's also in trouble for an incident down in Florida where he is accused of throwing a glass of juice in a woman's face. If that one goes badly for him, it could well result in an additional suspension.

On the other hand, the Jets get Holmes incredibly cheaply. The Steelers will receive a fifth-round draft choice in this year's draft, a bag of old footballs, and some used jockstraps. And when Holmes is actually on the field, he's a damned good receiver. Witness the sensational catch he made in the waning seconds of the SuperBowl two years ago, which won the Steelers the world championship.

I really have mixed feelings about this trade. The Jets did need a major infusion of talent at the wide receiver position, no doubt of it. Mark Sanchez needs someone to throw to, if he is to avoid the traditional sophomore slump, and Gang Green's league-leading rush attack can only benefit if they can improve their passing offense.

They did pick up Braylon "Ooops" Edwards last year in a trade, but so far he has not shown he is the answer. There have been persistent rumors of the Jets trading for Brandon Marshall of the Broncos, and even talk of them signing Plaxico Burress once he gets out of prison. Acquiring Holmes makes all that moot.

On the other hand, I am not crazy about the Jets being the new Oakland Raiders and filling up the roster with troublemakers and low-character castoffs from other teams.

This trade is going to impact the Jets long before Santonio actually takes the field in green and white. A whole bunch of mock drafts had Gang Green selecting Notre Dame wide receiver Golden Tate in the first round when the NFL assembles in NYC at the end of the month for their annual game of high stakes Pick'em. That's looking a lot less likely this morning. Bad news for Tate, probably... but it does free the Jets to fill another area of need, now that we are set at wideout (kinda sorta).

Should be an interesting year.

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trebla1972
Apr. 12th, 2010 07:57 pm (UTC)
Pretty good for a 5th round pick
Supposedly the Jets were the only team interested but I highly doubt that. Even with his legal issues and his reported 4 game suspension pending the price was very low. I think this was more a case of the Steelers taking a quick deal to send a message to their team. Big Ben in particular. Holmes is a very talented player and only 26 years old.

Any thoughts about last week's Sunday night trade? Donovan McNabb is Redskin red will not look right. I wanted him faraway from the NFC Beast. He will haunt the Eagles, I know it.
kharrisbob
Apr. 12th, 2010 08:06 pm (UTC)
You might not see him at all...
If Holmes fails another drug test he gets banned for the year... As a Steelers fan I'm thankful for all the great plays he has made for us, but glad his troubles are on now on the Jets.
geek_domestic
Apr. 12th, 2010 08:20 pm (UTC)
My head's still spinning from us getting McNabb, I can't process anything else in football at the moment. None of us have quite come up with anything to say about it other than "What the hell?" and "At least we're getting rid of Campbell?"
seidan1
Apr. 13th, 2010 05:23 am (UTC)
I love the blame Campbell gets for the failure that is the Redskins. Is he supposed to block, run the ball and catch the passes he throws as well. After that maybe he can play some D too. Your team better find an O-line soon or DM won't last the season.
geek_domestic
Apr. 13th, 2010 12:56 pm (UTC)
I never said the rest of the team was ace, you know. But Campbell can't make a pass unless the other team's D gives him at least five minutes, and his receiver has nobody else around him. He sucks under pressure, he sucks at finding people in the melee, and he isn't worth what His Majesty Snyder paid for him, which is the only reason he hasn't been gone before now. I only wish Colt hadn't screwed himself up and gotten on IR last year, he has a lot of potential that's being wasted.
hippoiathanatoi
Apr. 12th, 2010 08:26 pm (UTC)
"... and some used jockstraps."

Eww. But hilarious.

Is it me, or are "troubled" football players more common than there used to be? Or is it that it's just much likelier that they're going to be caught performing misdeeds, or having said misdeeds reported in the media?
whitehead
Apr. 15th, 2010 04:43 am (UTC)
The only difference between now and the past 30 years is this NFL commissioner has decided to cement his place in NFL history by cracking down on the misdeeds.
mikelee722107
Apr. 12th, 2010 08:28 pm (UTC)
Your Jets are living on the edge
Can Shonn Green handle the load?
Can Mark Sanchez play more like he did in the playoffs and avoid a sophomore slump?
Can Braylon Hands of Stone Edwards stop dropping passes?
How long before Santonio Holmes gets in REAL trouble in the Big Apple?

The Jets could go all the way or implode terribly. They were this close to going to the Super Bowl but it took a miracle to get them into the playoffs in the first place after going 2-4 in their division.

Definitely going to interesting.
pacofuller
Apr. 12th, 2010 08:31 pm (UTC)
Rumors
There are rumors that Leon Washington is part of the deal also as long as he passes a physical when he is able to.
hedwig_snowy
Apr. 12th, 2010 08:33 pm (UTC)
Yeah, a bit iffy, but the Jets would, realistically, have to empty San Quentin before they approached Al Davis' level of recruiting....

And, it looks like the Giants life just got a bit harder with McNabb going to the Redskins. He will make them better. And anything that makes the Redskins even a little better makes life for a Southwestern Giants fan a little more nerve-wracking...

And I don't think Jimmy Clausen is pleased with that trade either. Looked like the Redskins might draft him...they still might but not early...unless Snyder is a bigger idiot that we already know he is...
dizzy34
Apr. 12th, 2010 08:33 pm (UTC)
I Love the Draft
Not too keen on the three day thing, but for every NFL fan hope springs eternal.
bbeitel
Apr. 12th, 2010 08:54 pm (UTC)
The talking heads at Fox Sports are now saying the Jets will be looking at picking up a Left Tackle with their pick. Keeping Sanchez off of his back will be helpful in the passing game.
trebla1972
Apr. 12th, 2010 10:09 pm (UTC)
Don't the Jets have a pretty decent LT with D-Brick Ferguson? I would think getting another passrusher would be a bigger need. Eventually the league will catch up with their blitz packages. They need someone who can get them 10+ sacks a seasonn.
seidan1
Apr. 13th, 2010 05:26 am (UTC)
Jason Taylor?
vandor
Apr. 12th, 2010 08:57 pm (UTC)
love the draft
The exciting part of the draft is I still won't be surprised at all if the Jets still take Tate with their first pick. Its part of the way the NFL offenses are going at the current moment and it will also give the Jets leverage in a long term deal with Santonio.

...That and are the Jets really ready to use another first round pick on a pass rushing OLB after the Ghoulston fiasco
danbuter1
Apr. 12th, 2010 09:17 pm (UTC)
I really wish Santonio had stayed out of trouble, but many Steelers fans, including myself, are not surprised at all about this. Holmes is a great receiver, so once he's on the field, he'll do well for the Jets. Hopefully, he won't shoot himself in the leg in a NYC nightclub. ;)
metamorphage
Apr. 12th, 2010 09:30 pm (UTC)
I was originally suspicious of the acquisition, but that was before I saw the price. For a 5th-round draft pick, this is fine with me - Holmes is more than good enough for that kind of a flier.
axechucker
Apr. 12th, 2010 10:53 pm (UTC)
Drafting a not-so Artful Dodger
My Rams are going to screw the pooch again it looks like, taking Sam Bradford rather than concentrating on offensive or defensive line. I freaking want a boy named Suh; instead we dump Bulger (who sucked anyway--should have never gotten rid of Warner) and set up a very mortal-looking, slow-footed rookie QB behind our porous o-line.

I don't even wanna watch him take the hits he's gonna take. Build the lines and concentrate on running the ball / stopping the running game first, fools!

Hear me now: Colt McCoy is going to be at least twice as good as Bradford.
seidan1
Apr. 13th, 2010 05:29 am (UTC)
Re: Drafting a not-so Artful Dodger
Suh is a great player but not worth the $50 million plus that the number 1 overall pick will get.
nukerxform
Apr. 13th, 2010 12:28 am (UTC)
what?
If the Rams draft Suh or McCoy, they will be left without a franchise QB AGAIN. They've always taken amazing players which are considered safe picks - but the league is quarterback-driven and this is why teams such as the Colts, the Saints, the Patriots etc. do well whilst teams such as Buffalo, Cleveland, and St. Louis continually draft in the top 10. Also, don't be overawed at Suh's playing ability. Firstly, it's not certain that he'll do well in the actual NFL (NFL offensive linemen are some of the nastiest sons of bitches around). Secondly, he has a history of injuries which could worsen as he enters the league. Finally, DTs bust more often than QBs when it comes to first-round draft picks.

I think the Rams should take Bradford, the Lions should take Okung, the Buccaneers should take Suh, and the Redskins should take either Trent Williams or Bryan Bulaga (Bulaga is the better player, but Williams fits better in Shanahan's scheme).

As for the Holmes trade, not only does it fill the Jet's #2 need (apart from creating more of a pass rush) but it also came dirt cheap. Even if his problems manifest into larger ones and he ends up not being on the field, all the Jets lost were a 5th round pick (which probably would have been blown on a bust OG anyways). If the Jets are truly concerned about Holmes being on the field, they can always pick up a late-round WR like Blair White or Jordan Shipley as insurance.
w2kb
Apr. 13th, 2010 12:37 am (UTC)
Ha! Could make for an interesting conversation with Steelers / Giants fan Jeanne if we make it to LepreCon from NJ next month as planned.
guessingo
Apr. 13th, 2010 12:38 am (UTC)
jets need pass rushers
Jason Taylor is not the owner. If he was still very good, he would not be changing teams every year. I think the Jets will try to get a pass rusher with their first round pick. I know that Holmes is suspended the first four games, but he had 1250 yards last year. The Jets got him for a 5th round pick? That is a pretty stupid trade by the Steelers. I know they lose people, but you are sending him to an in conference rival for garbage.

The Giants really need a middle linebacker since they cut the only good one they had on the team.
seidan1
Apr. 13th, 2010 05:35 am (UTC)
I think this is a smart move for the Jets. As previously stated even if it doesn't work out it only cost them a 5th round draft pick. As long as they don't draft a kicker in the first three rounds they should be okay.

Maybe the Steelers will use that 5th rounder to draft Blount, that RB from Oregon who knocked out the Boise St. Player. That could help fill the off the field drama left by Holmes.
dothraki
Apr. 13th, 2010 09:37 am (UTC)
Brother... How did the Jets turn from a Cinderella into a (potentially) legit title contender pretty much overnight? As a Raider fan, I... Well, as a Raider fan I'm pretty much always depressed when the discussion turns to football. How about as a Chargen fan, I... Oh, wait, you've got LT now, too... Uhh... Say, when is LA getting a football team...?
mikebear
Apr. 13th, 2010 02:05 pm (UTC)
Jets
As a lifelong Jets fan I don't like then trend here; picking up problem player after problem player. I think Woody's just trying to sell PSls and seats. Why get rid of TJ for LT at the same price, TJ is outperforming and was a leader. They had a great year last year, they seem to be shuffling more than improving.
cimbolic982
Apr. 13th, 2010 02:09 pm (UTC)
Holmes
George, as a Ravens fan I can tell you that the Jets received a fantastic WR. For years he's been a Raven-killer (he may as well have been camped out in front of the Twins waiting for them), so needless to say, I'm happy he's out of the AFC North.

Rex Ryan always had trouble game-planning for him as our DC(see the 2009 AFC Championship game and just about every other game that he scored TDs on us) so I think he will know just how to use him to give opposing DC's nightmares. He and Edwards are a heckuva one-two punch. So long as they can both stay out of trouble in New York, Sanchez has an incredible group of receivers to develop with (on top of one of the best offensive lines in the business).

You should be smiling widely on this one. At the end of the day even if it doesn't work out, a fifth round pick for a guy with his credentials is a steal any way you cut it.
mantho
Apr. 13th, 2010 06:29 pm (UTC)
Good luck with Tone
Though I really like Holmes, I thought he had too much baggage for the Steelers to draft him in the first round. Bottom line, though, is that the kid is remarkably talented, plays hard and is relatively unselfish. I hope he does well in NY. I would be nice if he stays out of trouble but I do not believe all the hype about Ryan being an uber-manager of troubled young souls. That guy has baggage of his own.
olde_scratch
Apr. 13th, 2010 06:35 pm (UTC)
Since the Saints play the AFC North this season....i'm happy to see Holmes gone from the Steelers :D

Now if the Jets could kindly knock the NFC North down a few pegs....



steveoh77
Apr. 13th, 2010 08:39 pm (UTC)
Holmes
I sure hope Santonio gets it together.

He made great catches for both my Buckeyes and the Steelers.

And since his number was 4 and my daughter's number in soccer was 4, he was her favorite player.

She older now, reads the papers and he's now lost her admiration forever.
nycfalcon
Apr. 14th, 2010 03:30 am (UTC)
These team is starting to remind me of the old Raiders.

Just win, baby.
whitehead
Apr. 15th, 2010 04:46 am (UTC)
Getting a Super Bowl MVP who is only 26 for a 5th round pick should be considered a felony.
darkcyder
Apr. 15th, 2010 06:42 am (UTC)
Go Dolphins!
Chad Henne to Brandon Marshall ftw!! I love the AFC East!
lyonel_bara_ls
Apr. 15th, 2010 04:02 pm (UTC)
Too bad they won't select Tate now. I'm a Notre Dame fan and let me tell you, he awesome after the catch.
lexcade
Apr. 16th, 2010 10:13 am (UTC)
if it's any consolation, the Bengals seem to pick up nothing but troublemakers. we seem to be the team of second chances...
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