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Joe Should Go

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I wish I was a United States Senator, so I could introduce a bill to strip Joe Lieberman of his American citizenship.

You know, Golden Rule and all that. Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander. What goes around comes around.

Joe Lieberman = Al Gore's Biggest Mistake.

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scott_lynch
May. 8th, 2010 11:30 pm (UTC)
Re: TERRORIST EXPATRIATION ACT
Can any one of you give me one good reason as to why we shouldn't kick these people out?

Because we're not discussing "kicking them out." We're discussing the act of revoking their recourse to the guarantees enumerated in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. A giant boot doesn't magically appear out of thin air and "kick them out". What are you, five?

The problem with this bullshit is that it's pointless, time-wasting, dog-whistle nonsense that has nothing to do with a) preventing terrorist acts or b) proving/disproving the guilt of suspected terrorists. The citizenship status of a terrorist suspect is no impediment whatsoever to their being tried, or to their being punished if found guilty.

Contrary to the belief of an awful lot of vengeful pants-wetters, "GIT A ROPE, BOYS!" is not the highest aspiration of our society's judicial heritage.
jonm095
May. 8th, 2010 11:55 pm (UTC)
Re: TERRORIST EXPATRIATION ACT
Thanks for ignoring everything else I said, which answers your "question".

It might prevent terrorist acts, if they are found and their passport flagged before they walk away freely from the airport. It will also affect the trial and punishment, as it will move it out of the civilian courts and into the military commission, which is the current way we handle non-citizen ("alien") terrorists, per the Military Commissions Act of 2009, which Obama signed as part of the 2010 National Defense Authorization Act.

We are already trying alien terrorists in military commissions, WITHOUT the protections that we, as American citizens, have (just as we already have the ability to expatriate any citizen who fights against the U.S.) Why should people who qualify as terrorists, through action or providing support, be treated any differently than alien terrorists? This bill levels the playing field. A terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist. They are fighting against the U.S. now. This bill recognizes that the "enemy" has changed and so must we.

Some say that we've "evolved" away from the frontier justice you allude to and I suppose from a process standpoint we have. That doesn't mean that there is not a time or place that we will need to "evolve" again, even if some consider it to be devolving instead.

We must fight the enemy we are faced with and we must adjust our weapons and tactics in such a way as to exceed theirs.

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