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The Knight of Flowers

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I suppose I could still hint around about this... something about holly and oaks and a bill, I guess... but it seems rather pointless, since (1) you guys would solve such hints in about twelve seconds, and (2) the answer has already leaked out on Twitter and has been picked up by some of the fan sites.

So instead I'll just confirm the reports. We have our Knight of Flowers. The part of Ser Loras Tyrell in the HBO series GAME OF THRONES will be played by Finn Jones.



Jones is a talented young British actor whose previous credits include the long-running British soap opera HOLLYOAKS and a cop show called THE BILL. I haven't seen either of those myself, but I have seen Finn's audition for Ser Loras (the scene where Loras confront Jaime and Brienne at the gates of the Red Keep), which was terrific.

(There's a YouTube video with clips for those who might be interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOsUFwKxAPk There's also a YouTube fan video from a young lady who seems to be madly in love with him, which I guess just goes to show that (1) he's a great choice, and (2) Sansa isn't the only one. That one you'll need to find for your own selves, however).

So... House Tyrell is now represented in the GAME OF THRONES.

I should mention, by the way, that the earlier report of Finn Jones' casting was somewhat premature. At the time the news leaked out, via tweet, Jones had been cast and had been approved by HBO, but the deal had not yet closed. In fact, it was not until this morning that HBO officially informed me that the deal was set. Which is why nothing has been said until now. You have to understand the way the process works, folks. Many audition, they are winnowed down to a few finalists, a choice is finally made after much internal discussion and weighing of alternatives, the choice is submitted to HBO for approval, approval is given (or sometimes, rarely, not -- in which case it is back to square one)... and then negotiations begin with the actor's agents.

But not every deal closes. Sometimes you can't get together on the money. Sometimes there is a problem with the dates and shooting schedule. Sometimes, in between the audition and the callback and the final offer, the actor gets another job... a movie or another TV show (you and I may think it mad, but truth is, most actors would prefer, say, a lead in another production to a supporting part in ours)... and elects to take that instead. Lots of things can happen.

And no one wants to announce an actor, only to have the negotiations dead end for one reason or another, or the actor withdraw. Which is why I will never post anything here until the deal is closed. So keep that in mind the next time you hear a rumor on Twitter.

There should be more casting news soon, by the way. Another five or six parts have been cast and approved... but the negotiations are still ongoing with the actors in question and their representatives, so I will say no more. You'll have to wait. (But David and Dan and Nina have found some great people, so the wait will be well worth it).

Today belongs to Finn Jones. Three cheers for bold Ser Loras!

Comments

gonzo21
Jun. 19th, 2010 08:08 pm (UTC)
Good lord, somebody from Hollyoaks is actually going to go on and have a career in something good!?

Truly, we are living in end times.
eefster
Jun. 19th, 2010 08:17 pm (UTC)
I am surprised too. And yet so excited. I can't to see who else has been cast, and how the adaptation comes across. It's bound to be fantastic! (Hollyoaks or not. ;))
gonzo21
Jun. 19th, 2010 09:07 pm (UTC)
I'm not too worried about the Hollyoaks connection, an actor is only as good as the material he has to work with after all.

Now, if somebody from Hollyoaks had been hired to write the adaptation, then I'd be worried. ;)
blueseaisland
Jun. 20th, 2010 08:51 am (UTC)
so would I :)
brudewollen
Jun. 19th, 2010 08:48 pm (UTC)
That's interesting. In the States, a lot of top actors got their start on soap operas. Some do get pigeon-holed and their careers halt there (albeit they are big stars in their own sphere), but so many major movie and TV stars go through them early on with like a 6 month or year-long stint on a show, you'd be amazed.

As for Finn, I saw the leaked rumors about him getting the role and thought then and think now he has a look that's perfect for Loras. The videos of his acting work look promising, too. His hair is even exactly how I imagined it, which normally shouldn't even matter (even though so many seem to get hung-up on this issue).
gonzo21
Jun. 19th, 2010 09:19 pm (UTC)
I think it might be quite different here, I think soap actors (particularly Hollyoaks, which has... shall we say, a reputation?) are generally considered the bottom of the pile. Its rare for a soap actor to go on and do worthwhile things elsewhere.

Ex-Hollyoaks people are... I think one of them had a non speaking bit part in one episode of Doctor Who once, and another did a movie where she got topless. And off the top of my head I can't think of any of them doing anything else. Except for reality tv shows of course.

This may well officially make Finn the most successful Hollyoaks alumni ever. Which, good on the fella. He's obviously got a lot of talent to have gotten a big break in the States in the first place. :)
brudewollen
Jun. 19th, 2010 09:47 pm (UTC)
That sort of thing does happen as well to some soap opera actors, but it's usually the ones who have great success on soaps, ironically. They can't then get out of that "hole" once they made that kind of name for themselves. It's not a bad gig, though, some of them make a LOT of money doing those shows, but it stunts their creative career in many cases. The ones who go on to bigger things usually are actors who's characters don't catch on and so they get written off the show. Then later they make it in either mainstream, major TV shows or film when nobody remembers them from the soap world.

What I hear a lot, though, from actors is that soaps are a great training ground because you have to shoot every day for a very extended season, so you get a huge amount of experience.

I know two former soap actors. One, Peter Love, was a big star on two major soap operas in the States. He's a fantastic actor, and even teaches acting in Hollywood these days (I think he's still doing that). But I think because he was so well known in the soap world it really kept him from having a bigger career.

My other friend, Tim V. Murphy, was on an Irish TV soap opera and was pretty famous there. He's now in the states and getting some decent roles in movies like MacGruber and Appaloosa. He's not famous here by any means, but he's still out and about getting some good work. I really want him to get a role in Thrones, he's got an amazing look for it and he's from Ireland (not N. Ireland, though), which might help.
gonzo21
Jun. 19th, 2010 10:04 pm (UTC)
I believe UK soaps don't pay very well. But, that's acting in the UK, it's generally much lower paid than the States. And Hollyoaks is... about the bottom rung of the ladder in UK Soap terms.

(They apparently have an upcoming storyline where an alien will visit, and nobody will believe its really an alien, until he flies off up into the sky, in a strange sort of pastiche of K-Pax.)

... needless to say the rumour is Hollyoaks is on the verge of cancellation. :)

And yes... This HBO series could be very good for British/Irish/Scottish actors, with Sean Bean, there could be a big demand for exotic Celtic accents. I can imagine the people of the North having northern/scottish accents. The bog people sounding welsh. The River people being Irish.

Would Americans generally pick up on these accents do you think?
coaldustcanary
Jun. 20th, 2010 04:38 am (UTC)
In my own experience, I'd say your average American viewer can parse English accents, and "non-English UK accent", but a lot have trouble noting the difference between, say, Irish and Scottish accents, beyond "English accent that sounds funny".

I've traveled fairly extensively in the UK and Scotland and watch a ton of BBC programing and I still can generally only get a vague sense of northern or southern and maybe an idea of social class with English accents, and differentiate Scottish, Irish and Welsh, too. But I'd say that's not common among the American audience at all.
gonzo21
Jun. 20th, 2010 09:40 am (UTC)
Mmm, interesting. Doesn't entirely surprise me. My own awareness of American accents is that generally they all sound the same to me. (With the exception of Southern accents.)
parrismcb
Jun. 19th, 2010 09:51 pm (UTC)
it can happen
Nathan Fillion was a boy ingenue on a US soap long before he got that nifty brown leather coat. Sarah Michelle Gellar was cast as Erica Kane's long-lost daughter on 'All My Children', a role she played so well it was downright scary, long before she became a Slayer. I think Hugh Jackman was on a Aussie soap as a young actor.
werthead
Jun. 20th, 2010 12:30 pm (UTC)
Re: it can happen
Matthew Fox from LOST also started off on one of those soap-like dramas, and a surprising number of actors from NEIGHBOURS and HOME & AWAY (which make HOLLYOAKS look like Proust in comparison) have gone on to have major careers, like Guy Pearce (from MOMENTO, THE ROAD and other roles) and Alan Dale (Widmore from LOST).

I think in the UK it tends to happen less because actors get very comfortable in a regular-paying soap gig and stay in the role for far too long and get typecast, although there are lots of exceptions (Michelle Ryan from EASTENDERS got her short-lived stint on BIONIC WOMAN and now regularly crops up on various UK drama shows, such as DOCTOR WHO last year).

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