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Edited at 2013-01-25 12:00 am (UTC)
j/k
Ed Harris is pretty awesome.
Ed Harris attached as Jonathan Harmon in "The Skin Trade"? I can see it.
(That said, probably well wrong.)
Edited at 2013-01-24 11:56 pm (UTC)
From wiki: "A mouse drinking water from a lake meets the Frog King, who invites him to his house. As the Frog King swims across the lake, the Mouse seated on his back, they are confronted by a frightening water-snake. The Frog dives, forgetting about the Mouse, who drowns. Another Mouse witnesses the scene from the bank of the lake, and runs to tell everyone about it. The Mice arm themselves for battle to avenge the Frog King's treachery, and send a herald to the Frogs with a declaration of war. The Frogs blame their King, who altogether denies the incident. In the meantime, Zeus, seeing the brewing war, proposes that the gods take sides, and specifically that Athena help the Mice. Athena refuses, saying that mice have done her a lot of mischief. Eventually the gods decide to watch rather than get involved. A battle ensues and the Mice prevail. Zeus summons a force of crabs to prevent complete destruction of the Frogs. Powerless against the armored crabs, the Mice retreat, and the one-day war ends at sundown."
The word also means, "much ado about nothing", "A storm in a puddle", or "a silly altercation".
There's a book on Amazon called 'The battle of the frogs and the mice' authored by a George Martin. A coincidence, or you've been googling yourself, George.
The frog in the picture is Froggy The Gremlin. He was a character on the Smilin' Ed's Gang radio and TV show and later Andy's Gang TV show in the 1940s and 1950s. D'oh! He was also an alter ego in 'The Armageddon Rag', a 1983 GRRM book. That's what I get for being an exclusive ASOIAF reader.
I may have taken the frog as too much of a clue.
BUT WAIT, TV Tropes has a more thorough explanation of the story.
"The frog king Puff-jaw offers to receive Crumb-snatcher as a guest before he takes him across the lake and accidentally drowns him"
Maybe someone is going to offer to take Tyrion or Daenerys across the "lake" and they drown. I'm jumping to all kinds of conclusions. I'd rather guess at an actor or actress, but I kind find a good trail to begin.
Unless you got Brad Pitt, who was in Troy. But that's a little ridiculous. OR IS IT? Yeah, it is.
Edited at 2013-01-25 12:57 am (UTC)
If it is not right though, we might be barking up the wrong tree with that particular son of Homer.
Since no one knows if Homer was a real person, or when he lived exactly (it was all Oral tradition, so really hard to pin point facts) maybe we have to think outside the box. A son is in a way, a successor. Who was Homer's successor? Spiritually, I would say Virgil who wrote the Aeneid as a propaganda piece to glorify Roman history and connect it to the end of the Trojan war, making the Romans descendants of the survivors of the fall of Illium.
so an actor named Virgil? I really couldn't find one.
How can this not be about the bear? It has to be, right?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1212069/?ref
:)
As someone who was a fan of Rome and also worked in tv and had the experience of their show being taken away, you must have thoughts on it.
Also I would love GoT to add more actors to their cast from Rome. Ray Stevenson wearing a kraken helm would be awesome.
GOT is already using two actors from ROME: Ciaran Hinds and Tobias Menzies. But the casting on that show was marvelous, and I am a huge fan of many of the other actors who appeared with them, including Ray Stevenson, Polly Walker, Max Pirkis, Kerry Condon, Ian McNeice, Indira Varma, David Bamber, and... yes... James Purefoy and Kevin McKidd.
Whether any of these actors will ever appear in GAME OF THRONES... well, that's not up to me, and it's not that easy anyway. These are working actors, many of them have other jobs, and we already have a huge cast, so budget is always a concern.
FWIW, I also love the cast of the old I, CLAUDIUS. If Derek Jacobi, Sian Phillips, John Hurt, Brian Blessed, George Baker, and their bunch want to come on GAME OF THRONES, I'd love that too. But hey, as I said, it's not to me, they're probably too busy, and even if they were free, we probably could afford them.
A lot of factors go into casting. That's why I am so amazed by Nina Gold and the job she has done for us.
Also, it's got to be a bear--Bart II :). Fits in nicely with NCW's comment that he was shooting in the US because an actor couldn't leave the states. Though I did spend several minutes looking into some ancient Greek performing group before I thought to google actors named Bart.
Edited at 2013-01-25 02:01 am (UTC)
Baker was one of the unsung heroes of I, CLAUDIUS. Derek Jacobi and Sian Phillips got an incredible amount of praise for their portrayals of Claudius and Livia, deservedly, while Brian Blessed and John Hurt were already well-established and well recognized, but I never felt Baker got nearly enough attention for his Tiberius... a thankless role, since the character was so unlikeable, but one that he performed brilliantly.
There's a lot of his Tiberius in my Stannis, fwiw.
Speaking of Stannis, I always pictured Ben Cross when reading. I figure some lazy recollection of Malagant from First Knight (an awful, awful film) is to blame, but the guy does have a hard ass look to him. And he's a pretty decent character actor.
Pic:
http://91.207.61.14/m/uploads/v_p_images/1
Edited at 2013-01-25 02:42 am (UTC)
"Did he take my hand and say,
Well done, brother, whatever should I do without you?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla
(at 1:35)
I had seen I,Claudius so many times that as I read Stannis' brooding in Clash of Kings above I immediately recalled that scene.
You said it's not up to you who to cast, which I understand, but do you get to say "I like these 5 the most" etc, assuming you get to see the audition tapes?
Yes, it's BART THE BEAR.
Or rather, Bart the Second. The original Bart, that nine foot tall star of stage and screen, has departed for the great forest in the sky. So Jaime and Brienne get to play with his heir and namesake.