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Jets Crash Again

It is hard to be a fan of the New York Jets.

They have hardly done anything right since Joe Willie Namath won SuperBowl III, and every time you think maybe they are finally turning the corner, they find some new way to screw things up.

Today the Jets traded Darrelle Revis, the best cornerback in the NFL and far and away the best player on the team. It is never a good idea to trade the best player on your team. The Jets desperately need a shut-down corner, since they do not have a real pass-rush threat, and the only way they ever get any pressure on the opponent's QB is by shutting down his receivers long enough for the rushers to get there. Revis was a huge part of the reason why Rex Ryan's defense has been so good (ups and downs, sure, but still one of the better defenses in the league). So they get rid of him Right.

Only the Jets. They have a pretty good defense and a godawful offense, so what's their big offseason move? "Hey, let's get rid of our best player, bring the D down to the same level as the O."

Now, maybe, MAYBE, you can make a case for trading Revis if you get a "Herschel Walker" deal. That is, a deal as rich as the one where the Dallas Cowboys traded RB Herschel Walker to the Vikings, and got so many players and draft choices that it won them three SuperBowls. And it is worth noting that Herschel Walker, while a damn good player, was neither the best player on the Cowboys nor the best running back in the NFL at that time.

But the Jets did not get a Herschel Walker deal. Revis is going to Tampa Bay. In return, the Jets get Tampa's first round draft choice this year (#13 overall, not even a top ten pick) and a conditional fourth round pick next year. Yeah, NEXT YEAR. Yeah, I said FOURTH round. Maybe it becomes a third. Whoop-de-doo.

The Jets, in short, got rooked. Congrats, Tampa Bay GM, you drank our milkshake.

And what about the new Jets GM? Fire his ass now. Bring back Mike Tannenbaum. Bring back the guy before Mike Tannenbaum. Hell, bring back Harry Wismer.

The best theory about this trade is that the Jets want the #1 pick overall in the 2014 draft. Cause this next season is going to be bloody painful. After which our new whizz-bang "let's give away our best player for a bag of old jockstraps" GM is going to fire Rex Ryan because, after all, that 2 - 14 record is clearly Rex's fault.

The year after that is likely to be even worse, even with that swell fourth-round-maybe-it-becomes-a-third we'll be getting from Tampa Bay. That is, assuming Kal-El Son of Jor-El isn't coming out in next year's draft. And even if he was, the Jets wouldn't take him. All that green would remind him too much of kryptonite.


Excuse me, while I go weep into my beer.

(It is not all bad. I will always have Paris. And Parris. And the Giants)



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Apr. 22nd, 2013 08:02 pm (UTC)
He's worth more than two draft picks, especially when they aren't even in the same year.
Sometimes I want to believe that the Jets are setting us up for something secretly spectacular, but they keep proving us wrong.
Apr. 22nd, 2013 08:52 pm (UTC)
Patience George!
Normally I would agree with a lot of the points you have made George, but I think its too early to be down on the trade. The best franchises in the NFL all have a system that draft/sign players to fit into. The problem the Jets have always had, they have no system, especially under Tannenbaum except to go out and get big name guys who were flawed (what most NY teams do) instead of building through the draft and then developing them (Patriots/Ravens/Packers/Giants). While the Jets draft history has proven to be awful and Rex has shown no ability to develop non-defensive players, we have to see what the new GM can do and like people said above, had to make the move before Revis left without getting anything in return.

I do understand the frustration, its going to be a long year for the Jets!
Apr. 22nd, 2013 11:08 pm (UTC)
Revis Trade
Well Revis would of been a free agent next year and would of walked away anyways without the Jets getting squat, this way at least the Jets get a couple of draft picks out of it. Business move.
Patrick Wagner
Apr. 23rd, 2013 12:31 am (UTC)
Is Revis more important that a good QB?
I'm not saying that what the Jets did was wrong, but 2 first round draft pics are a pretty big deal and do have a lot of value. What do you think of the possibility of the Jets trading those, either to move up or for some players? Like you have said, they haven't had the best luck in the draft, maybe they can make some splash with a trade? I mean, you guys really need a better QB, do you think that Sanchez will ever win a Superbowl... I sure don't.
Apr. 23rd, 2013 04:12 pm (UTC)
Re: Is Revis more important that a good QB?
Trent Dilfer won a SuperBowl. Brad Johnson won a SuperBowl.

An ordinary QB can win a SuperBowl if he has a great defense.
Re: Defense - Patrick Wagner - Apr. 23rd, 2013 05:53 pm (UTC) - Expand
Apr. 23rd, 2013 12:35 am (UTC)
As a Green Bay fan, we once had a similar situation with Javon Walker. He put up great numbers as a WR but became disgruntled. After Ted traded him to the Broncos he faded into obscurity. I'm not saying Revis will do the same, but sometimes it's better to get rid of the distractions rather than embrace them.
Apr. 23rd, 2013 02:41 am (UTC)
I kind of like the Jets when they’re not directly competing with my Ravens and the coach isn’t attention whoring. I wasn’t happy to see this. Its going to be a tough year for them.

The ill fitting mantra that got me through this Baltimore’s loss of Anquan Boldin, Bernard Pollard, Ed Reed, Paul Kruger and Dannell Ellerbee was;

” Its baseball season.”

I am still chanting it.

( Even if the draft is just days away.)
Steven Jorgson
Apr. 23rd, 2013 10:46 am (UTC)
The Jets have so many other needs right now, a superstar corner in a contract year isn't a luxury they can afford. This is a rebuild move.
Apr. 23rd, 2013 02:52 pm (UTC)
The Jets had no leverage in the deal. Revis had one more year on his contract. He has already held out twice since he was drafted. The Jets weren't going to pay him $16 million/season next year, but somebody else (probably still the Bucs) would have, and then the best the Jets could hope for would be a third or fourth round compensatory pick in 2015.

Here's something to consider: of the top-ten highest paid players (before Revis's contract), only three were not quarterbacks. Those three players are Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, and Mario Williams. All three of those players are on teams that finished last in their respective divisions. If you're going to dump 10% of your salary cap space on a single player, it better be a quarterback, because that's the only position you can build around in the NFL today.

You're being too hard on Idzik. He was put into a bad situation because Tannenbaum let Revis run all over him the last time there was a holdout. He gave Revis a contract that not only ended when Revis was still young enough to command one more big-money deal from other suitors, but also allowed a clause that prevented the Jets from using the franchise tag to keep Revis.

The Jets have had an amazing off-season. Idzik is a cap-conscious front office man who was part of building something amazing in Seattle. He came in to a Jets team that was burdened with bloated contracts for aging players and cleaned house. Rebuilding can take a long time, but he's making all the right moves, even managing to re-sign players like Calvin Pace to smaller contracts after they tested free agency. And while the Jets may have a terrible history with draft picks, the Seahawks regime he's been part of over the past six years have done very well.

To put all this Jets praise into perspective, I'm a Dolphins fan. I'd much rather see the Jets dwell in mediocrity for as long as possible. While I don't expect much from the Jets next year, give it a year or two, and I think we're going to be in a very competitive division.
Apr. 23rd, 2013 03:02 pm (UTC)
This is not a worst case scenario. The Jets are no more than a 7 win team with Revis next season. Losing season and then getting no compensation for him would not be ideal. Yes, I would have preferred more than a 1st and a 3rd/4th, but, the problem with getting more is that Revis wants too much. The CB free market this year was plentiful with reasonably priced talent and Revis is paid well beyond the mean salary.

Our Jets are hamstrung by the horrendous contract that Tannenbaum gave Sanchez. Izdik knows that the offense will not produce with Sanchez behind center and he knows that having Revis for one more season with no guarantees will not make the difference.

It will be a sad, sad season for us Jets fans, but, if next year's QB choices in the draft are better, I'll have hope for 2014.
Apr. 23rd, 2013 04:09 pm (UTC)
Re: Alternative?
Sanchez had a horrendous year last year, no doubt, but I think people are being too quick to write him off. He led the Jets to the AFC championship game in his first two seasons, do recall.

Last year he had NO receivers after Santonio went down, and the shadow of Tebow looming over him. Too much of a distraction.

I don't think Sanchez will ever be a Brady or a Manning, but put enough talent around him and he can be a perfectly adequate NFL qb. And teams have won the Super Bowl before with a great defense and adequate QB. See Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer.
Re: Alternative? - tomshohfi - Apr. 23rd, 2013 05:06 pm (UTC) - Expand
Agree fully! - ext_1770490 - Apr. 23rd, 2013 06:34 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Alternative? - Gary Canapinno - Apr. 24th, 2013 01:58 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Alternative? - moiaussi93 - Apr. 24th, 2013 05:23 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Alternative? - nbda1997 - Apr. 24th, 2013 01:35 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Alternative? - podo15 - Apr. 24th, 2013 07:41 pm (UTC) - Expand
Apr. 23rd, 2013 04:51 pm (UTC)
Jets fan in (almost) total agreement
I totally agree that the Bucs ripped off the Jets in this trade. However, I understand Idzik's logic here. Revis was going to be a free agent after this coming season and the Jets wouldn't have been able to afford a contract like the one he got in Tampa. Even though it hurts (really, really hurts), it was the best way of getting good value for Revis and beginning the rebuild to clean up the wreck that Tannenbaum left in his wake. The part I disagree with from your post is fire Idzik, he's made very solid moves to help begin the rebuild that the Jets desperately need.

This year will suck for us Jets fans, but in the long run it will make the team better.

P.S: You must hear it a lot, but I absolutely love ASOIAF. Just finished A Dance With Dragons last week, can't wait for the final two books!
Apr. 23rd, 2013 06:08 pm (UTC)
So it would make sense to keep him, getting forced to overpay him and still lose? The jets are rebuilding and you to do so succesfully you cant pay your corners half of the teams salary... This move will maybe mean 1 more loss in 2013 for the jets so they will go from a 6-10 team to a 5-11 team and with this sacrifice they should be alot better in year 2014, 2015 and so on. Be thankful you got a GM that knows how to take emotion out of it and make the necessary decisions
Craig Griffin
Apr. 23rd, 2013 07:10 pm (UTC)
I think the deal is a best case scenario for the Jets. The Bucs are giving away a first and a third, in a league where draft picks are premium. For a player coming off injury and has a long history of holdouts. Also, the Jets don't have leverage! They can't franchise him next year and he only has a year left on his contract. If your another team would you really give up a first and third for an injured star and then turn and pay him QB money?
Apr. 23rd, 2013 07:38 pm (UTC)

I think my comment may have gotten put in your spam folder. Anyhow, I'm sure you already this, but your comments here got put in ProFootballTalk, NBC's NFL website. I can't believe it, but there are d-bags already complaining about how you should banish yourself to the watershed to finish Winds of Winter.

(eyes rolling here)

Cheer up! At least you have the Giants too. Even though I've hated Eli since he had a tantrum after being a #1 draft pick until San Diego traded him. At first, I thought he looked like he was going to cry when they announced it. Then I realized that he always looks like that. Anyhow! I'll chug a beer tonight and send a hearty toast your way. See ya!

Apr. 23rd, 2013 07:54 pm (UTC)
Time Ran Out on Jets
With Tampa Bay offering $16 million per year and the draft just a few days away, I'm not sure what the Jets could have done (other than keep him). Seems they had no real interest in retaining Revis, and the only thing another team could really offer them was draft picks. The teams that usually make these kinds of deals have been in cap hell. A 1st (13th overall) and a 3rd (most likely middle to late 3rd now that they should be able to cover the pass) was probably as good as you could expect this late.

At Tampa Bay, Revis will make $1.5 million per year just for working out. That's pretty sick when you think about it.

Now there are no guarantees on the deal, so Revis is taking most of the risks. If he doesn't respond to his ACL injury, the Bucs could just cut him. But let's face it, a lot of guys in the league are running around, very well mind you, with restructured ACLs. However, will Revis be as dominant? That is the question. I happen to think that even if Revis was 100% healthy, the Jets would have still traded him. It was all about the money.

The draft is a crap shoot. Five 1st round draft picks, especially with the Jets front office, could end up being junk. I think their best bet is to take the $16 million per year they didn't spend on Revis and lock down whatever talent that's worth a damn or go after some in free agency (although that well seems dry at the moment). But realistically they've taken their best chess piece off the table, and seem to be playing checkers at the moment. Pretty hard to sell that strategy as "winning" to their fans.

The core of the Jets has been in decline the past few years. I think it started on the o-line. They used to have a pretty dominant running game, and that helped their defense, which in turn helped their QB. Now it looks like they're going to put everything on Sanchez and hope Rex Ryan has some magic to cobble together a defense. So yeah, 2-14 and cleaning house in 2014 doesn't seem all that improbable, although I think they should be able to do a little better with the right moves and coaching (enough to save the GM I guess).
Anthony DeMarco
Apr. 23rd, 2013 07:57 pm (UTC)
shows deeper issues
This is a move the Jets needed to make but the fact that they had to make it- the fact that the best corner in the NFL is completely alienated from your franchise at this point shows much deeper issues. Yes it's tough to pay a corner that much but a true shutdown corner can completely transform a defense. The salary cap goes up every year too.

The Jets do need to rebuild, but Revis is 27. A 29/30 year old Revis as the elder statesman/defensive leader could ABSOLUTELY be a part of that rebuilding. Did the Ravens get rid of Lewis and Reed during some of their bad years? No because getting rid of elite defensive talent is bonkers. Look how it paid off for them.

So yeah, Revis was leaving next year anyway and the Jets would have gotten a 3rd rounder for him. This deal gives them way more than that but them even being forced into this move shows how badly the whole situation has been mismanaged from day 1. Elite players deserve elite money.

At least you guys can pick #1 next year though.
Apr. 23rd, 2013 08:07 pm (UTC)
you should write for ESPN. you have about as much knowledge about the sport as they do and write almost as well. ok, maybe a little better.

Edited at 2013-04-23 08:08 pm (UTC)
Jim Galligan
Apr. 23rd, 2013 08:29 pm (UTC)
Always a Fresh Hell
I think you're wrong about 2-14, George.

The Jets always find fresh, unpredictable ways to disappoint us die-hard fans, and simply sucking next season is too easy to imagine.

Instead, I think they'll draft well, Sanchez will have a spectacular season under Mornhinweg, and the team will make it over the hump in the AFC Championship game.

Then a meteor will strike the Meadowlands in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl, just as time is winding down on the best season in team history.

Because we are Jets fans, and that's what we get.
Craig Jauvtis
Apr. 23rd, 2013 08:29 pm (UTC)
Woody of House of Johnson
You should put that character in the next book and have the families land taken away
Apr. 23rd, 2013 08:38 pm (UTC)
Unbelievable. I've been following the Jets for about 8 years now. You'd think I would be used to disappointment by now, but this kind of stuff still boggles my mind.

So, for the coming season, we still have a QB who can kind of play until he gets inside his own head (like after his first mistake of the game), a coach who doesn't have the support of upper management, & now a severely diminished defense.

Can't wait for the fall :-/
Mike Grosso
Apr. 23rd, 2013 09:35 pm (UTC)
It's not so bad
As a fellow die-hard Jets fan, I empathize with you over all the pain you've incurred as a result of rooting for this team. However, while there are plenty of things to be depressed about with the Jets, I don't think this trade is one of them. While I agree that Revis was not only our best player and the best CB in football as you stated, I think that by the end of his career, he'll go down as the best cover CB in football history. That said, I still think he needed to be traded for whatever we could get. Revis was determined to get his $16M a year. Regardless of how great any CB is, given the presence of a salary cap, he is not worth $16M a year. I think the only position on a team that can merit such a large percentage of the cap is QB. Given Revis' contract history, who knows how much more he'd want in excess of $16M a few years into his contract. I am happy that the Jets were not willing to pay him that much. As such, we would have only been able to keep him for the season and then he'd walk. At least now, we're getting something for him. That said, I think a 1st and probable 3rd (at worst 4th) round pick is a bit cheap. I would have liked to see a 1st, 3rd and 5th round pick all in this draft but I'm glad they stood firm on getting the 1st round pick in this draft. I think Idzik deserves the benefit of the doubt that he got all he could. As Jets fans the only thing we've had to hang our hats on since Joe Willie has been hope - don't give it up so easily!
Apr. 23rd, 2013 10:09 pm (UTC)
Like Mel Kiper Jr. said - glorified expansion team. Sad but true. I wonder if they are going to pick up Barkevious Mingo up like the draft boards predict. He'd be great. And maybe that's just because I'm an LSU alum.
Apr. 23rd, 2013 10:44 pm (UTC)
The Woody Johnson CYA strategy
I started really following sports in '86, I was 10 years old and had high hopes for a Jets v. Giants Superbowl. I have maintained that dream for long time now, and with the fevered optimism of child on Christmas morning hoping to get his favorite toy this year, I will never abandon that dream. In spite of my unshakable loyalty, it always seems as if the powers that be go out of their way to consistently break my heart. I have seem so many of my favorite Jets leave in favor of higher priced band-aids in recent years that I been brought to the verge of tears. Pennington for Farve, T. Jones for L.T., Cochery for Burress, and on and on and on.

I have been finding it difficult to figure out what the Jets strategy for this off-season has been and the best I can come up with is a CYA strategy. Mr. Johnson is building a series of excuses instead of building a team. Fire Mr. Tannenbaum and blame the pitiful cap situation on him, this gives an excuse for getting rid of half the rooster. Trade Reavis because he wasn't going to be resigned anyway (not that we tried) and at least we got something rather than watching him leave as a free agent. Next year when the team suffers from poor management Mr. Johnston can fire Rex (after all isn't that why he was retained) and blame him for the teams woes.

I'm not angry, I'm just sad. And with all that being said, here is my silver lining. The draft is in a couple of days, there is potentially some good value in the mid rounds 2,3, and 4. With two firsts and a lot of holes to fill, Mr. Idzik could win me over by trading back both firsts for 2 later firsts and maybe net 2-3 more picks in the second and third. Lets get some potential in here and hope for the best. Thee only way to find a gem is to dig and keep digging. More picks equals more potential.
Apr. 24th, 2013 01:01 am (UTC)
Drinking milkshake
Heh heh, I love your little There Will be Blood reference there!
Apr. 24th, 2013 01:37 am (UTC)
Same old Jets
The Jets once again proved that they are the same old Jets. They shot themselves in the foot by the way they handled the whole matter, diminishing their bargaining power. The Bucs fleeced them. Now the Jets will draft: The next Ryan Leaf and Kyle Brady during the first round of the draft. As a longtime season ticket holder I shed a tear whenever I receive my renewal invoice.
Billy Donato
Apr. 24th, 2013 02:05 am (UTC)
well George, you took my boys sword hand last week, now your team loses theirs!
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