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NFL Draft, Day 3

The Giants draft is looking very strong. No spectacular moves, but solid players who will make solid contributions. Grabbing Nassib in round four to back up Eli and groom as his successor was a great move.

The Jets draft... two defensive players in round one look okay, but considering how high they were taken, you had to hope for more. Neither one looks like a game-changer. And taking Geno Smith will set back the club years. Sanchez is likely to be released now, which means we are starting all over, and with a much iffier prospect than Mark was when he was first drafted,

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arkham1010
Apr. 27th, 2013 06:37 pm (UTC)
Fire the Jets front office. They are almost criminally incompetent.
nycfalcon
Apr. 28th, 2013 12:20 am (UTC)
You can't fire the owner.
ebenstone
Apr. 27th, 2013 07:08 pm (UTC)
Nassib
Great guy from a great school! Go Orange!
cres34
Apr. 27th, 2013 07:08 pm (UTC)
D-fense...
Speaking of "d-fense", the Saints are definitely in need of some, and they had to make a lot of moves, including trading RB Chris Ivory to your Jets for a pick. Won't know how this will pan out till at least training camps & the pre-season, though.
MikeBogner
Apr. 27th, 2013 07:49 pm (UTC)
Jets QB Situation
I'm not sure I agree that picking Geno Smith guarantees setting the club back years. If he really is a bust (as I think he will be) and the Jets can figure that out in one year, he's still a second-round pick and easier to shed/move to backup QB. There's no shame or harm in picking Manziel or some other top prospect next draft. I pray the Jets don't have the natural draft position to get those guys (i.e., Rex somehow keeps us competitive), but whether they have a top 5 pick or trade up, they can always get another QB from a better draft class in 2014.
nycfalcon
Apr. 28th, 2013 12:21 am (UTC)
Re: Jets QB Situation
That's possibly true. If he can slide without needing to have Joe Torre teach him then that's a positive.

Edited at 2013-04-28 12:24 am (UTC)
Jeremy Morton
Apr. 27th, 2013 08:11 pm (UTC)
I wish I could understand what the Jets were doing
A tweet today that captures the sentiment, if slightly exaggerated:

"Giants draft = symphony. Jets draft = homeless man beating on garbage can."
torome86
Apr. 27th, 2013 08:33 pm (UTC)
Don't you know? The Jets are cursed until ASoIaF is completed; Like how Stephen King had to finish Dark Tower and then the Sox won the World Series!
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John Killinger
Apr. 27th, 2013 09:31 pm (UTC)
Chris Ivory to the Jets.
What are your thoughts on Chris Ivory going to the Jets? As a Saints fan who has watched Ivory since his first NFL play running back a Kickoff for a touchdown, I am sad to see him go, and I can tell you, The Jets have a real running back now.

Edited at 2013-04-27 09:32 pm (UTC)
grrm
Apr. 27th, 2013 11:45 pm (UTC)
Re: Chris Ivory to the Jets.
Don't know much about Ivory, actually... but if he was that good, why was he fourth on the Saints' depth chart?
Re: Chris Ivory to the Jets. - John Killinger - Apr. 28th, 2013 05:44 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Chris Ivory to the Jets. - Cali T. Rossen - Apr. 29th, 2013 08:54 pm (UTC) - Expand
nycfalcon
Apr. 28th, 2013 12:44 am (UTC)
I'm not sold that the Giants had a strong draft. I think for what they needed and what was available that it was competent.

As much as the Revis trade and the Geno Smith draft pick were confusing the other picks weren't glaringly horrible.

It looks like the Niners had a pretty good draft. That's not good. The Cowboys' draft gave me a chuckle. So even if we Giants and Jets fans/rooters didn't have much to wildly cheer about, we have that to be grateful for.
w2irt
Apr. 28th, 2013 03:44 am (UTC)
Yeah, I think you hit it on the head. Competent is a very good description. I still wish we'd taken Te'o at MLB since LB is a position that's always an Achilles' heel for the g-men. But I'm satisfied at what Reese was able to accomplish and look forward to a productive season. And don't forget, Cruuuuuz was a UDFA, so we're going to see some more talent come in for a look-see in the coming days. Things might get even better.
r3g0rzz
Apr. 28th, 2013 03:05 am (UTC)
As a Bills fan it looks like our franchises might have some good 2013 Draft QB Duels: EJ Manuel vs Geno Smith. Lets see what happens!
timkanak
Apr. 28th, 2013 05:28 pm (UTC)
NFL Draft
Trust me, Sheldon Richardson will be your favorite Jets player next year. He wrecked the SEC last year while being double teamed the entire season, he has the speed of a fast LB and always has the awareness to force fumbles. He was a KR on his high school football team. Richardson will be the best defensive player in the draft.
Eric Bakke
Apr. 28th, 2013 06:19 pm (UTC)
Until the Jets get some help at WR and TE it really wont matter what QB they have in. Their complete lack of talent at the WR position is the real issue in my opinion.
grrm
Apr. 28th, 2013 08:42 pm (UTC)
Braylon Edwards has some talent, though he is very inconsistent. And Santonio Holmes is very good, but it remains to be seen how well he will come back from his injury. TE is a bigger issue. The loss of Dustin Keller was devatating. He was Sanchez's favorite target.
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Dave Grose
Apr. 29th, 2013 12:31 am (UTC)
WVU fan
I actually live in WV and have followed Geno for his four years here at WVU. I met him a couple of times as well. In the right system, Geno could be a great QB. Looking at his first three years with WVU, he was not the star he became under Dana Holgerson (Coach of WVU) who is more pass oriented in his schemes. Given guidance, Geno Smith could be an asset to any NFL team. It is unfortunate that that guidance doesn't exist at the NY Jets. If last season is any indication, Geno might just sit and watch them shoot themselves in the foot until one or both QB's get injured, or he may be shoehorned in to confuse a defense. Neither of these scenarios play to Geno's strengths and will only serve to damage/ruin his future prospects. As a Geno Smith fan, I don't think there could have been a worse team to pick him up.

St. Louis on the other hand! They took BOTH of our awesome WR's in Stedman Bailey and Tavon Austin. With Tavon returning punts and kickoffs and Bailey's magnetic fingers, St. Louis may become my new team to watch. That's just my two cents.

Edited at 2013-04-29 12:38 am (UTC)
Joshua Ramsey
Apr. 29th, 2013 03:12 am (UTC)
Give Geno a chance
I know I am biased, but as a WVU student, I have watched every down Geno has played the last three years. He has shown tremendous growth in that time and even more potential to get better. He seems to be a true student of the game and is both accurate and strong when it comes to his arm. He had his issues this season and I am not saying he will deliver on his promise of a playoff appearance, but I think many Jets fans will be pleasantly surprised by what they see out of him this Fall.
Anthony DeMarco
Apr. 29th, 2013 04:40 am (UTC)
I just think Sanchez's time has come and gone naturally. There comes a point in time when a player stops being considered young and needs to start producing year in and year out like a true professional. Sanchez arguably has regressed since his rookie year and I'm not entirely sure Geno is capable of playing much worse than him at this point. The D looks okay, but the O needs a complete overhaul.

To be fair he does have a winning record and only 1 year sub .500, but then again Vince Young i2 31-19 all time so QB win-loss record can't count for that much lol.
grrm
Apr. 29th, 2013 04:18 pm (UTC)
QBs need a team around them. Sanchez had no one to throw to last year, once Santonio Holmes and Dustin Keller went down. The right side of the O-line fell apart as well.
jenniferlee
Apr. 29th, 2013 01:33 pm (UTC)
Whoa!
Releasing Tebow like that??? After the rosters are full? Doesn't look very sportsman-like. Hmm.
grrm
Apr. 29th, 2013 04:16 pm (UTC)
Re: Whoa!
The QB roster was certainly full. They had six. Now they have five. Which is still about two too many.
Re: Whoa! - Mary Ellen Wofford - Apr. 29th, 2013 06:02 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Whoa! - nycfalcon - Apr. 29th, 2013 10:27 pm (UTC) - Expand
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