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We're Number One...

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... in graphic novels.

The second volume of the GAME OF THRONES graphic novel debuted at #1 on the New York Times bestseller list:

http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/2013-06-30/hardcover-graphic-books/list.html

(And, hey, the following week's list is out, and we're still number one).

My thanks and congratulations to Daniel Abraham (who wrote the script) and Tommy Patterson (who drew the pictures) and Mike S. Miller (who did the covers). They do all the real work on this one. This is their triumph, much more than mine.

I'm glad so many of you are enjoying the funny book.

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polkadotsnplaid
Jul. 8th, 2013 02:47 am (UTC)
Re: House Martell Casting
Many ASOIAF fans on tumblr are women who don't feel comfortable at or have been driven from less inclusive ASOIAF forums elsewhere. It's unfortunate and disheartening to see you dismiss us all as just part of "a cesspool."

The tumblr-based ASOIAF community is far from perfect - what social media platform, Livejournal included, doesn't have its fair share of rude/disrespectful people? - but it is, for the most part (I say this as someone who got into your series BECAUSE of Tumblr and has spent nearly 2 years on that site almost exclusively to celebrate and talk about the series) inclusive, positive, and a great place to go for in-depth discussion of characters major or minor, plotlines, your love of a certain House, theories, etc.


grrm
Jul. 8th, 2013 06:54 pm (UTC)
Re: House Martell Casting
Well, I am not on tumblir, as I said, so perhaps I have the wrong impression of it... but whenever anyone sends me screencaps or quotes from the discussions there, I see a level of ugliness way beyond what I see on LiveJournal. Are tumblir discussions moderated? My own experience has taught me that unmoderated sites inevitably bring out the very worst in people.

Are you telling me that the tumblir community is largely made up of women? If so, that's something I didn't know. There are, of course, many female I&F and GOT fans on Westeros, Winter Is Coming, Tower of the Hand, and the other major sites... are you saying that tumblir is made up of women "driven" from those sites?

These are not rhetorical questions. Honestly, so far as I know, the only people being expelled from Westeros of the other sites I've mentioned are ones who have engaged in trolling, spamming, or abusive behavior of one sort of another.
polkadotsnplaid
Jul. 8th, 2013 08:22 pm (UTC)
Re: House Martell Casting
That’s unfortunate that you’ve only seen the ugly side of the website—but in my experience, that’s hardly the majority. Tumblr is unmoderated, although people can be reported for abuse to Tumblr staff who then can decide whether or not to suspend a blog. While the ugliness is certainly a downside, it also offers a platform where fans can speak their minds without fear of being censored (or censured) for having the “wrong” opinion. I know of more than a few people who have left Westeros and other fandom sites because they felt they couldn’t freely voice their (non-abusive, respectful) opinion.

In the same way that not having a moderator can bring out the worst in people, in my experience, it can also bring out the best—while there can be arguments for sure, the worst commenters and bloggers are usually repudiated by Tumblr fandom and the message is generally clear: trolling/rudeness/disrespectfulness is not welcome here. What people do on their own blogs is their own business—but once you start trying to cause upset in the fandom community, it isn’t generally viewed as acceptable.

The majority of the ASOIAF/GoT fandom on Tumblr is women – ones who, while certainly enjoying the men in your series, take lines like “the women are the strong ones” to heart – both in our love for your female characters and as inspiration. I have never seen more passionate, eloquent defenses of characters like Sansa and Cersei, for instance, who often get dismissed by fandom at large for simply being “mean” or “a bitch.”

I personally have met some of my best friends on Tumblr because of our love for the minor characters and houses in your series. We spend our time not flinging abuse at people for having different opinions than ours, but discussing what Jorah Mormont's relationship with his father might have been like before his exile, speculating on the prophecies and mythology of the series and what that might mean for future books, or making graphics and fan art depicting scenes described in the books that will likely never make it to the TV screen (Lyanna and Ned at the Tower of Joy, Jason Mallister bending the knee to the Freys, etc.)
ashayatara
Jul. 9th, 2013 01:15 am (UTC)
Re: House Martell Casting
The Tumblr ASOIAF community is incredibly passionate, even as ASOIAF fans go. Tumblr as a platform is one that allows great creativity from users. Users can make text posts full of analysis, if that is their way of expressing themselves, or they can create photo posts with graphics made by themselves. The latter is largely not supported or prevalent in other communities, save Livejournal. Tumblr also includes tagging functionality, which can allow users to have pages of analysis, pages of minimalist art based on ASOIAF, pages about the show, etc. An example would be Minimalist ASOIAF

Personally, I use both Westeros and Tumblr, for different purposes. Yes, I have often seen vitriol from Westeros members directed at other communities; I have even seen people create Tumblr blogs purely to insult people, tagging them in incendiary ways so as to gain attention. That said, I also feel that those people spewing hate are an extremely vocal minority. Just as I don't judge Westeros for the few, nor do I judge Tumblr, Twitter, or Reddit. So I use all of them, and hate on none. :)

Your remarks calling Twitter and Tumblr cesspools certainly gave people ammunition to continue these 'website wars', or whatever this nonsense is. I was pleased to see your clarification saying that you were mostly referring to the unmoderated nature of those sites. I'm sure a lot of other fans were relieved to know you weren't disparaging all of us on Twitter and Tumblr.
Bobby Schmidt
Jul. 9th, 2013 09:41 pm (UTC)
Re: House Martell Casting
Tumblr has a lot of extremes. It's a fine place for discussion and free thought, but many do take advantage of that... within and around many fandoms. The anonymous feature doesn't help this, either. There is so much anonymous hate on Tumblr and trolls just looking to evoke some sort of reaction from people... be it with insults, differing views, spoilers, and so forth. I have come across some great ASoIaF posts and had some private discussions about the novels on Tumblr as well, but have also seen the worst, which can at times be described as a cesspool. I do agree, that moderated forums are often the better choice, yet if you can avoid or ignore the dark spots, there are definitely some positive and loyal fans there.
nightlysparks
Jul. 8th, 2013 08:25 pm (UTC)
Re: House Martell Casting
By "driven," I believe the poster above means that Tumblr users have felt unwelcome on other sites - not that they have been expelled.

I would encourage you to take a look at the sites that others have recommended - they are great examples of meta, of passionate women (as the fandom there is for the most part women) that really do love to engage with the series.
suethepirate
Jul. 9th, 2013 12:05 am (UTC)
Re: House Martell Casting
I apologize for the members of the Tumblr community that have given you an overwhelmingly negative impression. It seems that the screencaps you've seen may have been the rarer examples, and not the great examples of humor and analysis that Tumblr regularly produces. The Tumblr blogs recommended above are a great place to poke around if you're ever curious to see what the fandom over there has to offer.

While there are times we may be critical, there should never be any harassment or a bullying attitude, and I find that the Game of Thrones/ASOIAF fandom on Tumblr is especially good about not tolerating and encouraging that behavior, amongst themselves or toward the cast. However, some of the remarks I saw about Pedro Pascal during the casting ruckus did make me wince and I apologize if he caught wind of them.

That said, Tumblr's ASOIAF fandom is strongly female as they have noted, and it has created a unique experience for me as a fan of your work. I'm a moderator over at WiC, and the difference between the venues is striking. While I love WiC, I also love Tumblr for the differences. On Tumblr, there is thorough analysis of the political nuances of A Song of Ice and Fire, the historical parallels, the costuming of the show, how it relates to our modern world and politics, and more. (And sometimes there's just incredibly funny and raunchy memes.)

For what it's worth, I have known some people expelled from websites not for abusive behavior but for challenging a rule they believed was unfair. But most of the time, the issue is that people are not formally expelled but driven out by being made to feel unwelcome by bullying that often held a misogynist tinge.
So in conclusion: Tumblr is like any place- not all good or all bad, but what we make of it.

Edited at 2013-07-11 03:09 am (UTC)
yagathai
Jul. 9th, 2013 08:28 pm (UTC)
Re: House Martell Casting
Hi George. While it's tough to say definitively whether tumblr-based ASOIAF fan blogs are largely women, anecdotally and in my experience they do tend to be so. And there are plenty of them (again, anecdotally and in my experience) that feel unwelcome at Westeros, etc. for a variety of reasons, often because the massive population of those sites leads to a diversity of viewpoints that are often in open and dramatic conflict. Tumblr fan circles tend to be more self-selecting, like Livejournals, making it easier to be a fan having dialogue with other fans on your choice of level, without having to deal with viewpoints perceived as offensive. Westeros in particular has a reputation (somewhat though by no means completely deserved, in my opinion) of being full of your more traditional fantasy fan, who lack... nuance.

I don't want to minimize the experiences of the folks that feel unwelcome at Westeros, &c as being overly sensitive or dramatic. Sure, there's some of that, but to be fair there are a lot of loudmouth jackasses on the Westeros boards. It doesn't help that the partner of the site owner and moderator has been repeatedly, openly and viciously hostile and contemptuous to and of fans of certain viewpoints.

You know me - I relish the opportunity to wade in with both fists swinging. But there are many that just don't want to slough through the often gender-based ugliness that results in, say, attempting to defend Sansa as a character or discuss the way that alternative sexualities are portrayed through the POV-based prism of cultural relativism.
qasr_e_shirin
Jul. 10th, 2013 04:59 pm (UTC)
Re: House Martell Casting
Tumblr is by no means a perfect website. Some users think it's perfectly acceptable to tell people to kill themselves for disagreeing about their opinions on anything (whether it's pop culture or politics) but a lot of other tumblr users call them out that and that kind of behavior wasn't unknown on LiveJournal.

I only speak for myself, here, but I left Westeros.org because I was tired of seeing posts about how Sansa and Catelyn deserved to be sexually assaulted. If that's someone's opinion, they're certainly entitled to it, but it's one I'd rather not read.
grrm
Jul. 11th, 2013 01:48 am (UTC)
Re: House Martell Casting
If Westeros ever did allow "rape Sansa" posts, I suspect it was a long time ago. Admittedly, I don't follow the fan sites, I have too much else to do, but I can't imagine Elio and Linda and X-Ray and their crack team of moderators letting such posts stand today. There is much to be said for moderated forums.
TopherOuta518
Jul. 11th, 2013 06:46 pm (UTC)
Re: House Martell Casting
I have been on Westeros for about a year and have never seen any type of "rape Sansa" topic. Sansa is very loved around there. There has been an increase of people joining to start trouble, but Elio, Linda, and all the rest of the mods are great with that type of stuff. I'm not sure why so many people are put off by Westeros, but it really is a great place.

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