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The Real Iron Throne

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Yes, I know, that title is a bit of an oxymoron.

There is no real Iron Throne. It doesn't exist. I made it up. I said it was made of melted swords, but really, it was made of words, like all such fictional constructs.

Ah, but it's real to me. That's part of what it means to be a writer. If you don't know what I'm getting at there, go read my old short story, "Portraits of His Children." When I write about the Iron Throne, I SEE it in my head... and I try to describe it as best I can. Not being a blacksmith or an ironmonger, however, I hammer it together with words, striving to make all of you, my readers, see what I see.

Most of the time that works... though, as the recent brouhaha about the Red Viper shows, the picture in the reader's head and the picture in the writer's head do not always line up perfectly. With the Iron Throne, however, the process has been particularly frustrating. A dozen different artists have done versions of the Iron Throne over the years. Some have been very striking, some less so, but none of them have ever been quite RIGHT. Their versions never quite matched what I saw in my mind's eye.

Then came the show, and HBO's version of the Iron Throne.

I'm a realist about these things, and I know perfectly well that for millions of television viewers worldwide, the HBO Iron Throne is THE Iron Throne, and always will be. It turns up everywhere, on book covers, on magazines, in places that have no connection to the show. Say "GAME OF THRONES," and people think of the HBO Iron Throne.

And, hell, in some ways the HBO throne is more real than mine could ever be. They've actually MADE theirs (though it is not actually made of iron). There's the one that sits on the set in Belfast's Paint Hall, and at least six others that travel about the country making promotional appearances at conventions, screenings, exhibits, and the like. They turn up in train stations and parks. Thousands of people have had their pictures taken sitting on the Iron Throne, including many celebrities. And me as well, many times. Over in the UK, Sky Atlantic has their own Iron Throne, that also travels about to help promote the show. Canal + has one too, in Spain. The Spanish and British thrones are variants, somewhat different from the HBO throne, yet similar in most important respects. I've been seated on both of those at well.

The HBO throne has become iconic. And well it might. It's a terrific design, and it has served the show very well. There are replicas and paperweights of it in three different sizes. Everyone knows it. I love it. I have all those replicas right here, sitting on my shelves.

And yet, and yet... it's still not right. It's not the Iron Throne I see when I'm working on THE WINDS OF WINTER. It's not the Iron Throne I want my readers to see. The way the throne is described in the books... HUGE, hulking, black and twisted, with the steep iron stairs in front, the high seat from which the king looks DOWN on everyone in the court... my throne is a hunched beast looming over the throne room, ugly and assymetric...

The HBO throne is none of those things. It's big, yes, but not nearly as big as the one described in the novels. And for good reason. We have a huge throne room set in Belfast, but not nearly huge enough to hold the Iron Throne as I painted it. For that we'd need something much bigger, more like the interior of St. Paul's Cathedral or Westminster Abbey, and no set has that much room. The Book Version of the Iron Throne would not even fit through the doors of the Paint Hall.

So what does the Real Iron Throne look like, you ask? Glad you asked. It looks kind of like this:

Iron_throne_proposal

That's the Iron Throne as painted by the amazing Marc Simonetti (and if you haven't gotten his 2013 Ice & Fire calendar, better hurry, the year's half over) for the upcoming concordance, THE WORLD OF ICE & FIRE. It's a rough, not a final version, so what you see in the book will be more polished. But Marc has come closer here to capturing the Iron Throne as I picture it than any other artist to tackle it. From now on, THIS will be the reference I give to every other artist tackling a throne room scene. This Iron Throne is massive. Ugly. Assymetric. It's a throne made by blacksmiths hammering together half-melted, broken, twisted swords, wrenched from the hands of dead men or yielded up by defeated foes... a symbol of conquest... it has the steps I describe, and the height. From on top, the king dominates the throne room. And there are thousands of swords in it, not just a few.

This Iron Throne is scary. And not at all a comfortable seat, just as Aegon intended.

Look on his works, ye mighty, and despair.

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miko_york
Jul. 9th, 2013 05:49 am (UTC)
It looks like a dragon's nest.
trysha
Jul. 9th, 2013 02:43 pm (UTC)
As it should!
Joe Garcia
Jul. 9th, 2013 06:09 am (UTC)
The Iron Throne
Awesome and terrible as it should be! Now when can we expect a scale replica of THAT version? ;)
Daro Alvarez
Jul. 11th, 2013 02:47 pm (UTC)
Re: The Iron Throne
Of course we can. That's what the Internet is for: meet crazy ideas with crazy people who realize them!
hexenhasel
Jul. 9th, 2013 06:14 am (UTC)
Agreed. That beautiful artwork from Mr. Simonetti captures the menacing and diabolical Iron Throne that I have always been given the impression of when reading A Song of Ice and Fire.

HBO's will do - and it IS iconic - but the above is much, much more. So much more.
huinare
Jul. 9th, 2013 06:20 am (UTC)
Zounds. Reminds me a bit of massive, twisting tree roots, at least in this thumbnail image (which I find ironic yet appropriate).
grrm
Jul. 9th, 2013 06:24 am (UTC)
I would have made it bigger, but computer illiterate that I am, I can't figure out how to increase the size of the images I upload to the Not A Blog.
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Ikari Vainilla
Jul. 9th, 2013 06:24 am (UTC)
NAILED IT!
That iron throne looks really accurate, so amazing!, the size, the number of swords... he pretty much nailed it, I always thought the series iron throne was way too confortable to sit on, more so when looking at joff sitting on it, anyway, this is a really amazing art.
salute from Argentina, hope you guys would tour here once :(
(looking foward for that winds of winter really can't wait)
Raaji Singh Bharij
Jul. 10th, 2013 06:09 am (UTC)
Re: NAILED IT!
It really irks me in the show when Joffrey is comfortable enough to slump and lean sideways in the Throne.... it loses what we come to know in the books which is there is no way you would do that- get to comfortable on the Throne or your reign.... and the Throne/ realm bites back!
Matt Stedman
Jul. 9th, 2013 06:28 am (UTC)
What's this brouhaha about the Red Viper? Is it about the casting? Looks about right to me.
grrm
Jul. 9th, 2013 06:58 am (UTC)
Oy... no, let's not go there again.
cronach
Jul. 9th, 2013 06:37 am (UTC)
Somewhere there's an alternate universe that exists, where every Game of Thrones episode has the budget of a Lord of the Rings movie. And this throne lives within it.

And now I'm sad.

Edited at 2013-07-09 06:38 am (UTC)
Jeff Leahul
Jul. 9th, 2013 12:34 pm (UTC)
It could be worse. Somewhere, there's an alternate universe that exists, where the war for that Iron Throne is actually happening! And we don't have to live in that universe, so keep your chin up!
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Connor Donnelly
Jul. 9th, 2013 06:37 am (UTC)
Interesting...
It's interesting how when I first read the books I envisioned the throne to be something more similar to this, though since watching the show for so long, my vision for the throne has shifted to the show's version. Though I much prefer this version. Anyway, good post Mr. Martin! Don't work too hard on TWoW!
ti_ana
Jul. 10th, 2013 12:37 am (UTC)
Re: Interesting...
Same goes for me! Also, many of the actors have replaced the images I had previously for the characters. Not necessarily a bad thing, but funny how the brain works. ;-)
duckygirlrocks
Jul. 9th, 2013 06:40 am (UTC)
Awesome!! I'm really blown away by the image, it's amazing! Can't wait to get the book.
andrewh1990
Jul. 9th, 2013 06:43 am (UTC)
Finally
So glad you finally addressed this issue, George. I've always been bothered about how the iron throne was portrayed. You constantly address how the Mad King cut himself all over the throne and yet the HBO throne seems like this perfectly formed seat, hard to hurt yourself on. They could have at least made it seem like it was made by humans (maybe with some magic)
justjohn
Jul. 9th, 2013 06:51 am (UTC)
Before HBO gets around to depicting them ...
What do the Seven Hells look like?

Being a guy who likes symmetry, I've imagined them as being counter to The Seven. By that, I mean each hell's, um, clientele consist of those who have most offended one of The Seven. The Warrior's Hell would have cowards, and so on.

Anyway, that's how it goes in my mind's eye.

And I wonder who would dwell in The Stranger's Hell.
indira_ringriel
Jul. 9th, 2013 07:45 am (UTC)
Re: Before HBO gets around to depicting them ...
Then all the maesters who heal people (and everyone who has ever saved a life ) dwell in the Stranger's hell, since they rob him of his "clients"
indira_ringriel
Jul. 9th, 2013 06:52 am (UTC)
Thank you so much for this story! The vision of the author is ever so much more important than any other vision.
And your Iron Throne is so much more terrific than the one in the HBO adaptation.
Thanks to your Not A Blog one of my favourite books gets better and better in my head ^_^

Edited at 2013-07-09 06:53 am (UTC)
aphroditemf
Jul. 9th, 2013 07:03 am (UTC)
Absolutely stunning artwork from Marc Simonetti! I enjoy looking at the 2013 Ice & Fire calendar every day, and I can't wait to see his contributions to the concordance.
ayannanyx
Jul. 9th, 2013 07:06 am (UTC)
Spot on
Even though I was introduced to A Song of Ice and Fire through HBO, when I read the books I see a different world entirely. I love the TV show, but there is more meat in the books to sink your teeth into. Love that you have shown a close example of how your Iron Throne is, I will adjust my imagination accordingly :)
Noam Wohl
Jul. 9th, 2013 07:23 am (UTC)
It feels very Hyperion-Shrikesque
and looks great.
Zlatko Ceraj Cerić
Jul. 9th, 2013 07:32 am (UTC)
iron throne
Yup, this is what I had in mind, too.
mizkit
Jul. 9th, 2013 07:46 am (UTC)
Yeah, that's much more like the Iron Throne I imagined. Murderous.

Not all writers see pictures in their heads, though. Me, for example. :)
Jezabel Nightroad
Jul. 9th, 2013 07:46 am (UTC)
Wow the "real Iron Throne" looks beautiful, deadly and frightening. Aegon wasn't kidding when he said, "A king should never sit easy."
Do you work with the illustrator Mr Martin in order for them to capture your vision?
grrm
Jul. 9th, 2013 03:28 pm (UTC)
Yes, Marc and I went back a number of times. He's a very patient and talented man... and obsessed with getting it right.
Michael Morrisson
Jul. 9th, 2013 08:03 am (UTC)
Wonderfully designed!
What a terrifying image! Hard to imagine a benevolent king ruling from atop that intimidating mostrosity. Also, though it clearly is different in style it reminds me a bit of the throne in Minas Tirith's throne room, sans steward's chair of course.
woodland
Jul. 9th, 2013 08:37 am (UTC)
Woooooow, that's so much more awesome-er than I imagined it. Would not want to put my bottom upon that seat.
Mathias Stark
Jul. 9th, 2013 08:37 am (UTC)
At long last !
This issue has been on my mind for ages now ! Thank you for stating how you really feel about it ! Now, *cheerleader mode : on* how I LOVE the sentence "when I'm working on THE WINDS OF WINTER" !!!
gunnyhighway_it
Jul. 9th, 2013 08:38 am (UTC)
Do you know what the realm is?
It's the thousand blades of Aegon's enemies, a story we agree to tell each other over and over until we forget that it's a lie.

Ah Littlefinger... f-- liar!
msconduct
Jul. 9th, 2013 08:43 am (UTC)
Yes! I've never liked the HBO throne, and in fact I was shocked when I first saw it. Apart from the size, what's most missing for me is an atmosphere of danger. Anyone sitting on it should feel that a little twist too far in one direction and they will be sliced like a ham.
Kimmy Benton
Jul. 9th, 2013 08:55 am (UTC)
Amazing
Yet again you amaze us with your imagination! I'll have to do a reread with this monster in-place.
aymenian
Jul. 9th, 2013 09:10 am (UTC)
Imagination and HBO's interpretation
This is YOUR world, YOUR creation and I sincerely like the HBO show, still most of the faces are not the ones I have depicted when reading your words in 3 languages over and over again :) I'd rather keep the ones I created out of your magic!
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