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The Lost Lords -- Found!

Telltale Games has released a trailer for "The Lost Lords," the second episode in their GAME OF THRONES videogame, centering on the travails of House Forrester of the wolfswood, bannermen to the Starks of Winterfell.

Looks pretty nifty. Take a look:



I haven't played the game myself, but all the reports I'm hearing are very enthusiastic. My former minion, Ty Franck, helped to write the scenario before he went off to become half of James S.A. Corey, and it looks like he and the Telltale crew did a bang-up job,

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supremecripple
Feb. 4th, 2015 07:18 am (UTC)
You rock!
Just finished playing Episode One a few moments ago, oddly enough. It was excellent! I think it's awesome that you allow video games to be made based off the world of A Song of Ice and Fire. There's a lot of potential to be found in that field and I'm excited to see what the future holds in that regard. Video games have been pretty lackluster lately and it's nice to sit back and actually find yourself immersed with it these days. I know for a fact, if there were more games from ASoIaF I would be playing them quite frequently. An open world role playing game would be incredibly fun if it were designed correctly by a talented studio. Too many games are alike these days and that worries me that somebody might receive the power to create a game for your fans and then completely screw up on it.

Anyways... Hope you're well and that you're enjoying the new year! Just bought The Hound's Helm from Valyrian Steel the other day and it doesn't leave my side. You rock, George! Thank you for bringing a lot of joy, sadness and many other emotions into my life with your writing.

-Zion Hericz
A Loyal Fan

Edited at 2015-02-04 07:25 am (UTC)
vromb_
Feb. 4th, 2015 07:19 am (UTC)
Hey George, isn't it kind of fan-fiction here with the House Forrester you've just mentioned once or twice in the books? Or is it ok since it's different genre? I clearly remember your article versus fan-fiction, and quite agree with most parts, so got curious.
grrm
Feb. 4th, 2015 07:37 am (UTC)
I don't know why people find this confusing, honestly.

Fan fiction is fan FICTION. Stories.

This is a game. Not fiction.

Also, it is licensed. What I object to about fan fiction (as the term is commonly used today) is that it's unlicensed, unauthorized, an appropriation of the writer's intellectual property without his consent. If the writer GIVES his consent, that's a whole different bag o' dragons.
Milerys71
Feb. 4th, 2015 04:51 pm (UTC)
THANKS
clear, golden dragons, I grateful for the treasure of 699 pages that fasting mantenen me, now that my blood cooled by dragons me back to life. Wonderful World, Lord of the dragons in the storm.
WalthervdVogel
Feb. 4th, 2015 06:45 pm (UTC)
"Fan fiction is fan FICTION. Stories.

This is a game. Not fiction."

I disagree. As hinted at by their name, Telltale specializes in telling stories. Video games CAN be just games, but the medium has come a long way from the days when the story was always just a thin excuse for gameplay, and in the case of Telltale the game elements are drastically minimized next to the narrative elements. It's more like an episode of GoT that every once in awhile lets you decide what to say or how to act than anything else.

That said, I don't see any contradiction in your stance on this. The game is officially licensed, based on the TV show rather than the books and was made with the help of someone you trust to get it right. To the extent that it portrays canon characters like Tyrion or Margaery, they've been portrayed faithfully, and in any case the majority of the story is centered on non-canon characters who have little to no effect on the story you're telling. There's a lot of things that separate this from simple fan fiction.
vromb_
Feb. 5th, 2015 07:47 am (UTC)
Well, I think the point is, this game is not FAN fiction :) - i.e. it is made not by just fans, but by «partners in crime», licensed-authorised video game creators. However, this definitely adds authors to official Westeros chronicles, besides George himself. This already happened with Elio Garcia (The world of Ice & Fire). In fact it looks like George is the King of content (of course), however there're Hands who CAN add something to the plot (with highest permission).

Edited at 2015-02-05 07:48 am (UTC)
Nautilus Seven
Feb. 4th, 2015 06:49 pm (UTC)
"Fan fiction is fan FICTION. Stories.

This is a game. Not fiction."

This is a story-driven game, George. It's fiction as well. I guess vromb_'s argument is that it's not canon, since most of the characters and several places included in the game are not mentioned in the books at all.
Joe Cain
Feb. 4th, 2015 07:16 pm (UTC)
Game stories
Well, games tell stories too. Telltale Games in particular use their games to tell stories, like visual novels. So, it is fiction, just not text fiction.
That being said, Telltale did do a great job. They always do.
Alexander Bojneagu
Feb. 4th, 2015 08:00 am (UTC)
Great game!Now I am going to play it a second time and take a different course of actions and see how I will end up.
Adam Zelenay
Feb. 4th, 2015 01:31 pm (UTC)
Spoilers ?
People,
can someone tell me, if I can play this game when I'm just finishing the second book ? I don't watch the series and I don't want any MAJOR spoilers. I'm a big gamer, so Id love to play this, but not at the price of spoilers. Thanks !
T0astofWar
Feb. 4th, 2015 05:18 pm (UTC)
Re: Spoilers ?
No the game starts at a major event in the third book/season. It will apparently go through the fourth season of the show as well. The game is based in show fiction with the actual actors voicing their characters. I would suggest you read all the books and watch the show before you play this.
sourbillytipton
Feb. 4th, 2015 06:36 pm (UTC)
Re: Spoilers ?
No don't play the game until you reach book 4. It contains heavy spoilers from the second half of ASOS.
noybusiness
Feb. 4th, 2015 02:53 pm (UTC)
The title reminds me of the plot of The Voyage of the Dawn Treader.
Curtis A. DeBaun IV
Feb. 4th, 2015 03:00 pm (UTC)
Hey George! I know there have been a number of video games made from Ice and Fire (Game of Thrones, Game of Thrones:Origins, The Telltale series, and others), I was simply curious as to what you thought about the value of story telling within the format of a video game. From my understanding there are some writers out there who have a very low opinion of video games, others consider it an art form. I was just curious, hope all is well!
WalthervdVogel
Feb. 4th, 2015 08:49 pm (UTC)
Also, just so you know, it isn't necessary to buy and play this to see what we mean about it being mostly about story. Just go on YouTube, search 'telltale game of thrones no commentary' and take your pick of links. Then watch for a few minutes. You'll see what we mean.
affs_vano
Feb. 4th, 2015 09:16 pm (UTC)
It is rather short.
thompsjt1g
Feb. 4th, 2015 10:07 pm (UTC)
The expanse with your minion 'TY'
Hi George. I am very grateful for TY having been with you prior to co-author role now with the expanse book series. I can totally see your influence in that book series such as POV and style ect. I am LOVING the series. Just blew through 2nd book and almost done with 3rd book and bought all 3 'in between' novellas as well that expand some characters with background and side stories. And now I hear SYFY channel is having it as a series this year!


Anyways thank you for your influence!
grrm
Feb. 4th, 2015 10:36 pm (UTC)
Re: The expanse with your minion 'TY'
Yes, the Expanse will be a series on SyFy. The trailer looks great. See downsteam.

I don't think I had much influence on the books, however. Ty is a strong-minded fellow, and he had the whole Expanse universe and backstory worked out long before he met me.
thompsjt1g
Feb. 4th, 2015 11:29 pm (UTC)
Re: The expanse with your minion 'TY'
Good to know about TY having planned this out quite some time ago. Well if you didn't have influence than thank you for promoting it and bringing out attention to it!
Calvin Armstrong
Feb. 5th, 2015 06:54 pm (UTC)
lets play.
I cant stress how amazing it would be(for me, and i imagine all other fans of the book) for you to do a lets play series of the game. i honestly think you would break the internet haha.
WalthervdVogel
Feb. 6th, 2015 06:21 am (UTC)
Re: lets play.
I think that might cause my head to explode.
Chad Cottle
Feb. 5th, 2015 09:40 pm (UTC)
Telltale Game of Thrones
I've been playing video games since the original Zork, and I'm a very unforgiving video game critic.

Telltale's game based on your books is the best Game of Thrones video game made to date. It's one of the best video games ever made, period. Really, really well done. Thanks very much for licensing it to the Telltale team.
AllanJLA
Feb. 6th, 2015 08:37 am (UTC)
I've been loving all the Telltale games, GoT being the first one I played. Revealed how indecisive I can be as a player (and person). I just hope I don't die in real life as much as I do in game.

Edited at 2015-02-06 08:40 am (UTC)
WalthervdVogel
Feb. 8th, 2015 06:17 pm (UTC)
Little late to ask this, but the issue has been bugging me and I would be interested to know. I know your position on fan fiction, and the reasons underlying that position, but how do you feel about unlicensed fan modifications made for popular games without the intent of turning a profit?

By the sounds of what you said above, games seem to fall more into the category of fan art or fan music based on the series, which doesn't seem to bother you anywhere near as much as outright making stories based on your world and characters. And some of the mods made based on SoIaF are immensely impressive labors of love, easily rivaling or surpassing anything that has been officially released and yet made for no other purpose other than so people can enjoy them.
grrm
Feb. 9th, 2015 02:38 am (UTC)
People can do whatever they want for their own amusement. It's when they commercialize, distribute, or try to make a profit that legal problems arise.
WalthervdVogel
Feb. 10th, 2015 02:25 am (UTC)
Thank you for responding, and glad to hear it.

To be honest, I was hesitant to even bring up the subject here, for fear my even mentioning them would be the first you've heard of such game mods and therefore (if you disapproved) might result in a C&D order headed their way. Since some of them are the product of years of collaborative work, all without the creators earning so much as a dime, it was unnerving even asking.
Carey Wilson
Feb. 10th, 2015 01:35 am (UTC)
I am very much enjoying this game. Episode 1 turned me on to the TellTale games, so I bought the Walking Dead season 1 while waiting for episode 2 of Game of Thrones. Walking Dead was amazing too, though Game of Thrones has only just begun. and is my favorite.

The characters that I relate to and am invested in the most in this game are the female characters. Very much as I am in the novels. This is a great game, and really fun to play.
Dan Argynov
Feb. 16th, 2015 03:36 pm (UTC)
Please play the game
The game is great and I loved it so far. I believe that you should play it. Some of the characters are very interesting. Do you plan to incorporate any part of the game storyline in your books?
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