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While I have been travelling, talking, touring, reading, writing, editing, and listening to great music these past few weeks, Puppygate has continued to fester, growing ever uglier.

In one of the more recent developments, the Rabid Puppies and some of their allies and fellow travellers have declared a boycott of Tor Books. I say "Rabid" here because Beale is backing the boycott, while Larry Correia says the Sad Puppies are not boycotting anyone... though Correia and some of the other Sads certainly seem deeply sympathetic to the boycott.

I am not, needless to say. Neither is most of fandom.

Which makes this a perfect time to BUY SOME TOR BOOKS!!

You can do that at your local bookstore, of course, or from your favorite online bookseller. There is an incredible range of great SF and fantasy to choose from in the Tor catalogue. Tor won the "best publisher" award in the recent LOCUS poll, for like the twentieth year in a row; there's really no other publisher in a field with a backlist to compare, whether you are looking for epic fantasy, space opera, military SF, literary SF, Hugo winners, Hugo losers, or what have you.

And, hey, you can even buy some AUTOGRAPHED Tor books by me. My Wild Cards series is published by Tor, as it happens, and we have signed copies of INSIDE STRAIGHT, BUSTED FLUSH, SUICIDE KINGS, FORT FREAK, and LOWBALL available through the Jean Cocteau... along with hardcovers of our award-winning anthology, DANGEROUS WOMEN, also published by Tor. You can find them all at the cinema bookshop, here: http://www.jeancocteaubooks.com/



So if you would like to strike a blow for free speech and decency, and support all the good people at Tor, go ye forth and buy a book today... from the Cocteau, or Amazon, or anywhere... and let your voice be heard. You'll get some damned good reading out of it too.

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storm59
Jul. 7th, 2015 07:37 pm (UTC)
Slightly off topic but I love the Suicide Kings cover. It reminds me of some of the old heroic pulp magazine covers - like Doc Savage perhaps. Awesome.

https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/802399.jpg
lordevaco
Jul. 7th, 2015 08:21 pm (UTC)
Are they paying you to do this? I thought you didn't do advertising in your blog besides your own work.
grrm
Jul. 7th, 2015 08:32 pm (UTC)
I recommend books here all the time. And I link to the Jean Cocteau website, for the signed books we have on sale. My own titles, sure, but also books by many of the great authors who have appeared at the theatre: Neil Gaiman, Dennis Lehane, Anne Perry, S.M. Stirling, Junot Diaz, Michael Chabon, Diana Gabaldon, and many more.

Of course, this is a special case. The Tor boycott is an ugly attempt to try and cost some good people their jobs. It needs to be denounced and opposed.
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Stevie Gamble
Jul. 7th, 2015 08:28 pm (UTC)
You are a bad, bad man. I'd already bought some Tor books on the day that Beale issued his asinine edict, but obviously I need to go and buy some more.

Of course, this is not in any way an excuse for me to buy yet more books...
grrm
Jul. 7th, 2015 08:33 pm (UTC)
One can never have too many good books.
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athelas6
Jul. 7th, 2015 09:21 pm (UTC)
In tune
I just so happened to purchase Dangerous Women and Warriors I this past weekend. They're excellent.
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sue_bursztynski
Jul. 7th, 2015 11:14 pm (UTC)
I have to admit that before I read the post, I thought you were asking for some multimillionaire to buy the company. ;-) Maybe "buy Tor books" would work better?

At this stage, I'm trying to stick to ebooks - no room, no room! (to paraphrase Harry Harrison) Until I have disposed of some of the stuff on my shelves to second hand shops or fundraising raffles, anyway.
lumbridge
Jul. 8th, 2015 12:43 am (UTC)
Why are the sad puppies boycotting Tor books? By the way which fantasy titles would you recommend that Tor publishes?
grrm
Jul. 8th, 2015 01:27 am (UTC)
It's the Rabid Puppies boycotting Tor, not the Sads. Plus some unaffiliated or semi-affiliated allies.

I will not attempt to explain the whole thing. In a nutshell, a Tor employee categorized the Puppies in a nasty way, some of them got outraged and demanded an apology, an apology was issued, but the Rabids decided that was not enough and now want resignations and firings. (Which they are never going to get, by the way).

Tor has published a lot of great fantasy. Their biggest series in the WHEEL OF TIME book, by Robert Jordan and Brandon Sanderson. I also suggest you try the LONG PRICE QUARTET by Daniel Abraham. Both those series are complete.
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admnaismith
Jul. 8th, 2015 01:38 am (UTC)
Holy Cow!

Are they even trying to persuade anybody any more, or are they now only about asserting dominance and voiding their bowels on All Things Good?
grrm
Jul. 8th, 2015 05:31 am (UTC)
Impossible to answer that, because the Puppies are not a group per se but a shifting alliance of individuals. Any answer you give, one of them will stand up and say, "I never said that."

To my eye, however, the majority of them have proved that this is mostly about "sticking it to the SJWs" rather than promoting work that they like. They want to tear down rather than build up; the Tor boycott is proof of that.
th0rstein
Jul. 8th, 2015 04:18 am (UTC)
Puppygate and Journal Policies
Mr. Martin,

You have repeatedly stated that you wish readers to talk about the HBO show (and other related material) on other sites. For this, I thank you. I come here to read about your work and what you are currently working on.

I certainly love to hear about awards and who is nominated for those awards. I am also quite pleased to see posts about your cinema.

However, could you please follow your policy about the HBO show in regards to Puppygate. I (and I am sure many others) don't care.

There are plenty of places for people to talk about Puppygate on the internet. This, I would hope, not be one of them.

At N4G (a gaming site) we decided to no longer run articles about Gamergate because they really weren't related to what the site was intended for: News For (4) Gamers.

This site is about what goes on in writing and it is one of the few places I personally enjoy going to on the internet.

However, of late, Puppygate has garnered far too much attention here and, I am sure, far too much of your time.

I cannot get back the time I have wasted reading posts about whatever this is, but I would love to come to this site and not hear about it.

If I want to hear about it, I can go elsewhere. I am sure it is still on twitter.

Sincerely,
Thorstein
grrm
Jul. 8th, 2015 05:34 am (UTC)
Re: Puppygate and Journal Policies
I am sure it is on Twitter as well. However, I am not on Twitter, so this blog is the only place you can read about my thoughts on these issues.

Might I suggest that you simply skip the Puppygate posts? Just today I was also posted about my trip to Europe and the Grateful Dead's final shows in Chicago, posts where nary a word was said about the Puppies or the Hugos.
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jordan179
Jul. 8th, 2015 06:35 am (UTC)
What did you expect was going to happen after Irene Gallo pretty much called everyone who supported any Hugo slate other than Tor's "Nazis?" Including some Tor authors. She's lucky she still has a job -- most companies would have fired her for insulting their own clients like that. Tor still may, when the magnitude of the boycott hits home.
grrm
Jul. 8th, 2015 05:15 pm (UTC)
Irene has apologized and so has Tom. That should have ended things. The outrage is a tempest in a teapot, stirred up by the worst elements of the Puppy movement.
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David Davies
Jul. 8th, 2015 01:10 pm (UTC)
Irene Gallo
Meh.

Boycott? I guess you could say I was participating in a boycott. I'd say I was simply taking my business elsewhere, since the people working there obviously don't like me and say insulting things about me which are untrue. Why should I do business with people like that?

As for costing them their jobs, I refer you to Brendan Eich. Sauce for the goose & all that.

Cheers,

David L. Davies
linnymay
Jul. 8th, 2015 01:26 pm (UTC)
We're all playing in the heart of gold band.
Good timing. I vowed I'd start no more incomplete series of books, so I just picked up Abercrombies 'Half-a' series. I also got 'Once we were kings' by Ian Alexander, and as a direct result of consuming this blog, Fort Freak. Fort Freak, btw, cost more in digital format than in paper-back. It was seven bucks though, so it's only irritating and not deal-breaking.

I love my fantasy worlds with their evil villains and honorable heroes. However, like Anne Frank, I believe in RL we're all basically good at heart. People like Vox Day test that belief.

My favorite Dead tune is Scarlet Begonias:)
th0rstein
Jul. 10th, 2015 06:10 pm (UTC)
Re: We're all playing in the heart of gold band.
Awesome, an Ambercrombie fan! Last Argument and those are great. May I suggest Glen Cook's the Black Company? I was able to read them straight through and not get fatigued. I am onto Naomi Novik right now and am really liking the Napoleonic Wars with Dragons.
memphismaniac
Jul. 8th, 2015 02:31 pm (UTC)
And if you buy through Dreamhaven Books in Minneapolis, Minnesota, Tor Book purchases will be 40% off through the month of July, 2015. See http://dreamhaven.livejournal.com/163420.html
sifth_ster
Jul. 8th, 2015 07:05 pm (UTC)
I love you're books George, but this is a case where I honestly view both sides as wrong. I really don't want anyone to lose their job over this, but there's no reason why a professional should ever call someone a Nazi simply because they have a different opinion. I believe in second chances and all, but simple from a professional stand point it's something that is really immature and outright rude.
jharaldson
Jul. 8th, 2015 08:19 pm (UTC)
I don't think it is fair to imply that Correia in any way supports the boycott when he has a public post out there saying this:

"The Sad Puppies campaign isn’t mad at Tor the publishing house. We have nothing against Tor.

In fact, one of our suggestions for novel is by Kevin J. Anderson, and is published by Tor. One of our nominees is John C. Wright, and he is published by Tor. There are other Tor authors who are secret members of the Evil Legion of Evil. And there are some Tor authors and editors who have reached out to us this week, and who have told the angry mobs to calm the hell down and knock off the asinine defamation, both in public and in private.

Don’t threaten to boycott anybody because of their business associations, because that’s exactly the kind of boorish behavior that’s been done to us."


http://monsterhunternation.com/2015/04/11/last-sp-post-for-the-week-to-my-people-dont-yell-tor/

If you have other quotes or material that is more recent that contradicts this I would be interested in seeing it. Thanks!
grrm
Jul. 8th, 2015 10:35 pm (UTC)
Try http://monsterhunternation.com/2015/06/18/sad-puppies-are-not-calling-for/

That's a more recent post. Correia says the Sad Puppies are not calling for any boycotts -- then spends the rest of the post praising Peter Grant, who started the boycott, and slagging on Irene Gallo. It is pretty clear where his sympathies lie, and they are not with Tor.

Which is pretty much what I said to start with. The boycott is Rabid Puppy work, not the Sads... but the Sads are not exactly rallying to Tor, and some are lining up with the Rabids.
evanmountain
Jul. 8th, 2015 08:27 pm (UTC)
Listening to Great Music
Hi George, big fan.
I couldn't help but notice you enjoyed yourself some greatful dead these past few days, and I'm pretty sure your title for this post is a Rush reference (yes?). It all got me wondering. who are some of your favourite musical artists?

Rock on.

(I bought the Dangerous Women anthology, fantastic)
grrm
Jul. 8th, 2015 10:28 pm (UTC)
Re: Listening to Great Music
'Buy Tor Now' is a Rush reference? Really?

A list of my favorite bands and artists would be very long. Check out the groups I dedicated THE ARMAGEDDON RAG to, for a start.
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yamamanama
Jul. 8th, 2015 08:59 pm (UTC)
I will hopefully buy The Goblin Emperor on Friday.
jere7my
Jul. 8th, 2015 10:55 pm (UTC)
I bought Goblin Emperor, Redshirts, and three Old Man's War books last week, so I'm doing my part.
grrm
Jul. 8th, 2015 11:10 pm (UTC)
Good for you.
travischesser
Jul. 8th, 2015 11:55 pm (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for keeping us updated George. Since your original Hugo posts, I've followed both sides closely and visited all their sites and you are absolutely correct.

The outrage against Tor is ridiculous. Two apologies have been given. Where are any of their apologies? Isn't Wright technically an employee of Tor as one of their paid authors? He constantly horribly rails against homosexuals, liberals, atheists all while screaming "libel" any time someone dares mention his name. Isn't he also guilty of insulting Tor's customers? Hypocrisy is all it is. They demand retribution in the name of some perceived slight against their honor, yet gleefully rail against anyone who is different. Men who aren't "alphas", non-Christians, feminists, liberals, homosexuals, you name it, with some of the most sickening insults ever and we are supposed to be surprised that someone like Gallo snapped and called them out. Unprofessional, sure, but no worse than anything said by them. Vox is calling George a rapist on a weekly basis. She apologized and, as many predicted, it wasn't enough. If she were to be fired, they would go for something else.

Don't kid yourself - the rabids at least don't want more voices in the Hugos - they want only their own.

I'm glad you were able to enjoy some time away. Thanks for all you do. Buying Wild Cards and all the Tor I want.. Minus Wright's.
Jake Lenihan
Jul. 9th, 2015 01:21 am (UTC)
regarding "listening to great music"
Mr Martin, I hope this doesn't violate your "keep posts on topic" policy, because you DID open with "travelling, talking, touring, reading, writing, editing, and listening to great music": my boss sent me a note saying he sat next to you at a the Grateful Dead shows in Chicago. I told him how jealous I was! Both for sitting next to the great GRRM and for attending the Dead show. He says it was a great show. Cheers!
thehoundjr
Jul. 9th, 2015 01:24 am (UTC)
George,

Do you promise to not channel your strong feelings towards the PUPPIES into negative outcomes in the series for any YOUNG WOLVES or perhaps any HOUNDS?

Promise me, George.
yamamanama
Jul. 10th, 2015 08:41 pm (UTC)
And I just bought The Goblin Emperor. Ha! Success! Eat it, boycotters! Not literally, I mean.
grrm
Jul. 10th, 2015 08:47 pm (UTC)
Good book. Strong Hugo contender.
olimxander
Jul. 11th, 2015 01:44 am (UTC)
Well.....
I just like to read. And living in today's society, there are far more serious world changing matters up for debate.

But yea, this needs to blow over already.

Edited at 2015-07-11 01:46 am (UTC)
Stevie Gamble
Jul. 11th, 2015 10:38 pm (UTC)
Re: Well.....
Much as I would like to believe that this can 'blow over' it is very obvious that some people in the US really don't understand that Worldcon is actually Worldcon. The people leading the Sads and the Rabids insist that this is all to do with US politics; the fact that fans outside the U.S. don't give a toss about US politics really doesn't seem to register with them.

I live in London, England; the site of Worldcon last year. It was the membership of Loncon which Brad falsely accused of fraudulently conspiring to award the novel Hugo to 'Ancilliary Justice' last year. That was an outright lie, and both fraud and conspiracy are criminal offences here in England. So, Brad, not content with accusing the membership of criminal offences, continues to reiterate that lie over and over.

Meanwhile, Rabid in Chief, Theodore Beale, otherwise known as VD, has his own lies to tell, the most recent being that all English people dislike our Jewish communities. Of course, he has to lie because the reality is that we don't. A good recent example involves a small number of Neo-Nazis, who wanted to march through a London suburb where 40% of the community are Jewish, to attempt to intimidate those people in their own homes. This is a democratic country, and the police therefore provided a site for a static demonstration, in Whitehall which is the heart of government; they also provided a large police presence to defend that democratic right, because the anti-Nazi demonstrators vastly outnumbered the Neo-Nazis.

There was a grand total of 20 Neo-Nazis, out of the population of England which is just under 54,000,000. VD hasn't apologised for that lie either. On the one hand people scream about Tor's employee who apologised, whilst the man demanding that she be sacked asserts that the entire population of England dislike our Jewish fellow citizens; in other words that we are all Neo-Nazis. All 53,900,000 of us...
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