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Live to Fight Another Day

Many thanks to all you loyal friends of House Lannister and the Maid of Tarth. Thanks to you, Jaime and Brienne defeated Sabriel and the pussycat and lived to fight another day.

But fight they must! This time they are up against two characters I do not know, from a book I have not gotten to yet... but the novel's gotten good reviews, and the characters appear formidable, so we may need your help again.

http://suvudu.com/2016/03/cage-match-2016-round-2-sevro-and-darrow-vs-jaime-lannister-and-brienne-of-tarth.html

LATER: Uh-oh. Danger. Looks like Jaime and Brienne are in trouble this round.

Blow the warhorns!

Summon the banners!

Vote!

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OmarAdelX
Mar. 14th, 2016 08:58 pm (UTC)
go ser jaime
As A lannister fan. it is my duty to vote to them , HEAR'EM ROAR!!
Calum Flanagan
Mar. 14th, 2016 08:59 pm (UTC)
Awesome stuff!
jonnytootall
Mar. 14th, 2016 09:08 pm (UTC)
Uho
Uho!

Having just finished the Red Rising trilogy (pretty good read, for the record)

I think Jaime and Brienne might meet their end going up against Darrow and Sevro.

Those two are wildly talented at fighting and working in unison.

It will be a good battle but I think Darrow and Sevro will take it.
nini1979
Mar. 14th, 2016 09:21 pm (UTC)
Ooh, that's a tricky one, much as I love Jaime and Brienne...

You ought to read the trilogy though. Pierce Brown has created a marvelous universe!
Dan Koifman
Mar. 14th, 2016 09:35 pm (UTC)
How many hands does Jamie have here?

Nevermind... just vote :)
tobinp
Mar. 14th, 2016 09:43 pm (UTC)
A plea from a Song of Ice and Fire Audiobook-o-file
Dear George,

First, I'm sorry to leave this comment here. I didn't know where else to post this.

As the release of Winds of Winter draws nearer, I can't help feeling deeply concerned about who will be brought on to narrate it (and book 7).

While he's one of the all-time greats, we all know Roy Dotrice will be too old when WoW drops; he's too old now at 92, and frankly, was already getting too old to have read book 5. His recollections of the accents used for each character and even how to pronounce their names has dwindled with the past couple of books. I realize as the author, this is not necessarily in your control, however, I have to think the folks at Random House Audio will listen to your recommendation.

As an avid listener, I have two suggestions I hope you'll consider:

Stephen Frye (1st choice) - he read the British version of Harry Potter and is excellent. His range, his acting ability are extraordinary.

Jim Dale (2nd choice) - he read the International version of Harry Potter and many more. Also excellent, though not quite as good as Frye.

We all agree that John Lee's reading for A Feast for Crows was a bomb, as evidenced by bringing Dotrice back in to re-do it. Please let's learn from this and not have Lee come in for these important final installments of this incredible series.

Lastly, a deep bow of gratitude to you, Sir. Your writing...just wow. The world you've created, the characters, it's almost too much to bare.

Thank you.

Tobin Poppenberg
redhelldiver
Mar. 14th, 2016 09:57 pm (UTC)
LIVE FOR MORE
As a fan of both cagematch teams and both book series -- I always recommend Red Rising to friends as Game of Thrones meets Star Wars -- it's really exciting to imagine the Reaper taking on the Kingslayer. Maybe even moreso, imagining Sevro versus Brienne, because both would use every trick in their respective books. Swords, razors, random nearby rocks, teeth, black market unicorn horns...

Yeah, Howlers know: sh!t escalates.

And we salute you, General nonsense. Break the chains!
ADragonDemands
Mar. 14th, 2016 10:00 pm (UTC)
NYC Season 5 Blu-ray event
Excellent news, ser: I got a press pass for the big event tomorrow night in NYC where they're making the big rollout of the Season 5 Blu-ray and screening the 20 minute "Dance of Dragons" animated featurette. I'll make an after-action report.

I already saw the featurette and it is amazing; I hope this sparks interest in a "Dance of the Dragons" prequel project of some kind ten years down the road (who knows?)

Minor question: why is the featurette titled "Dance of Dragons" instead of "Dance of THE Dragons"? The show called it "Dance of the Dragons" in Season 4 but then switched to consistently saying "Dance of Dragons" in Season 5 -- I...presume, that this is due to some sort of copyright situation? They couldn't copyright "Dance of the Dragons" because they technically don't have the rights to your novellas?

Edited at 2016-03-14 10:03 pm (UTC)
ADragonDemands
Mar. 15th, 2016 01:17 am (UTC)
Re: NYC Season 5 Blu-ray event


Four other related questions:

1 - I was delighted to see that, in the separate video on Dorne, the dragon Meraxes was accurately depicted with silver-white scales, a detail we only just received from the World book. The Dance featurette visually presents Vhagar as sort of a pale green color - somewhat like the official artwork in the World book. So, officially, what color was Vhagar?

2 - What race did you intend for the dragonrider Nettles to be? She is consistently described as a "small brown girl", and when I read that I took it to mean that it was a sort of Sarella Sand situation, she was a bastard fathered on a Summer Islander woman or something. Maybe it mean she "looked" Dornish/Latino etc. Fanart also generally interpreted that she wasn't North European looking like the Lannisters. I ask because she actually does appear in the Dance of Dragons featurette, and the artwork depicts her as black/Africa/Summer Islander in appearance. Does this match your intent?

3 - The video refers to Rhaenys, the Queen Who Never Was, as "the old king's sister" - even though she was actually Viserys I's first cousin. It also mentions that she was Rhaenyra's mother in law from her first marriage to Laenor - so was this an official change (much like Jaehaerys II) to simplify things in "the TV continuity", or was it merely a dialogue error because they thought it would take too long to explain their convoluted relationship? Yes I know you don't write these featurettes directly -- but over on Game of Thrones Wiki, I've got to write up the family tree diagram for the TV continuity.

4 - At one point in the video Viserys III narrates that "there were 18 dragons at the start of the Dance and only 2 by the end", stunted creatures the size of cats. Now in the main novels Tyrion does recall that the last two dragon skulls belonged to stunted creatures (though Dunk said Ser Arlan saw *one* dragon of that size) -- World of Ice and Fire said only four survived (Silverwing, Sheepstealer, the Cannibal, and the new hatchling Morning). But fair enough, within 20 years and still during Aegon III's reign only "two" dragons were left, broadly speaking.

...yet there's no way to reconcile the line about "18" dragons: even within the video's own continuity, if you count up the number of dragons they name, mention, or depict, it doesn't add up to 18. In the books of course, there were *20* dragons at the start of the Dance: one super-heavyweight (Vhagar), eight heavyweights, eight medium to lightweights, and three hatchlings too small to ride.

The video mentions that Aegon II's faction had "four" dragons - it indeed had four adult ones, so I figured he was just going by ridable ones. Then it says by name that Rhaenyra's side had three big ones (Meleys, Caraxes, Syrax), and her three eldest sons also had three. Then it says there were six "wild" dragons - so we've got 12.

12 plus 4 is 16. Then we see Stormcloud die saving Aegon III...bringing us up to 17. The hachlings Morghul and Shrykos were introduced in the sense that they appear on screen as the "four dragons" killed in the Storming of the Dragonpit, they appear on-screen (though unnamed), bringing us up to 19.

(for that matter, the video describes Rhaenyra's "youngest" son as riding back to Dragonstone on Stormcloud. By gumbo, this was quite a mistake, as Viserys II was actually her youngest son)

Only the twentieth dragon, Moondancer, was never referred to or even seen in the video

So no matter how you count them - actual names given, numbers given, visibly different dragons given, there's no way that the dragons in the 20 minute Dance of Dragons featurette add up to "18".

But this is all dithering. I was utterly in love with the video and I'm very happy we got it, the artwork was amazing as was the narration - particularly ingenious move to have Oberyn Martell narrating the actions of his own ancestor/archetype Daemon Targaryen!
Jeremy Amacher
Mar. 14th, 2016 10:02 pm (UTC)
Randomness - 1st Post
Just wanted to give you a shout out!! I got laid off on December 17th of last year and had a lot of time on my hands. The only book I really read up to this point in my life was The Hobbit. So I read that, then the Lord of the Rings and then I thought what now? I have been watching Game of Thrones since the beginning and wasn't the biggest fan because I really didn't understand what the hell was going on. Also I never thought anything could be as good as Lord of The Rings. Boy was I wrong. I am on Feast of Crows right now and just started reading your books around the beginning of January. Man I can't wait until Winds of Winter!!! Take your time though! :) It'll hit when it hits and dam will it be good!!! Roy Dotrice is amazing! I read when I can and listen in the car on the way home from work. (Got a new Job now. :)) Just wanted thank you for doing what you do and opening my eyes to reading once again. I can't wait to dabble in some other epic series. Best of luck to one of the GREATS!!!!

P.S. You need to make a Cameo is Game of Thrones at the very end with a wink and a nod.

Best line in the books so far. Midgets Fighting. They hop on the wrong mounts. "It took a while to sort it all out". I laughed so hard at this and still do. Alright I will shut up now.
lady_of_mists
Mar. 15th, 2016 05:40 pm (UTC)
Random comment
Congratulations on the new job! You've got good taste in books too. GoT, LotR, ASOIAF are all fun to see and read.
Samuel Pickstone
Mar. 14th, 2016 11:20 pm (UTC)
OH NO!
WHAT!? They defeated Ford Prefect and Arthur Dent?! - OH NO!
I would have thought Hitchhiker's Guide fans too cult to allow such a thing. These two must be good. And this book is rapidly moving up my "to read" list.
lady_of_mists
Mar. 15th, 2016 05:42 pm (UTC)
Re: OH NO!
They really are good! (and so are Red Rising Books 1 and 2, I haven't had a chance to read 3 yet). I still voted for Jaime and Brienne though. I think the Kingslayer and the Maid of Tarth might be able to outwit our Golden "friends"...

It would be a really bloody battle though.
OberynMattell
Mar. 14th, 2016 11:51 pm (UTC)
This whole thing just makes me think how it would be so cool if there was a Mortal Kombat / Street Fighter style game with ASOIAF characters.
cyniclclasicist
Mar. 15th, 2016 11:36 am (UTC)
Cage Match
Personally I'm interested in seeing Jaime vs Turin.
cashcraig
Mar. 16th, 2016 07:28 pm (UTC)
Re: Cage Match
By Turin are you referring to Turin Turambar of Tolkien fame?

That would be a fantastic matchup. They both share some similarities, such as the whole sibling incest thing (though in the case of Turin it was entirely an accident).
Re: Cage Match - cyniclclasicist - Mar. 17th, 2016 12:06 pm (UTC) - Expand
Oceanic816
Mar. 16th, 2016 02:25 am (UTC)
Break the Chains
As much as I love ASOIAF and Game of Thrones, I know that the Reaper will rise against his Golden enemies. In other words, Jaime and Brienne are toast.

"if your heart beats like a drum and your leg's a little wet, it's 'cause the Reaper's come to collect a little debt"

Edited at 2016-03-16 02:44 am (UTC)
questron
Mar. 16th, 2016 10:42 pm (UTC)
pfrrrrt.
Yeah sure... a world that has wonky physics (extremely weird seasons and therefore astronomical conditions) and where death is increasingly less meaningful for those who just have the right spiritual support would of course let those fancy Scifi boys keep their nifty little tech trinkets intact and not allow to revive Jaime and Brienne every time they get killed...

Also: a cagefight is ALWAYS melee and knights are damned good under those conditions, even one-handed ones (and the Suvudu lady kind of retconned that by "let's assume it's a young Jaime" or something similar to justify her mention of him crawling back to Cersei's bed in the rhyme...) while it would limit the hardware the other two dudes could carry into the arena.

A kingslayer should have little more trouble with a god, should he?
Re: pfrrrrt. - Oceanic816 - Mar. 17th, 2016 05:45 am (UTC) - Expand
Mehmet Eren Özyoldaş
Mar. 16th, 2016 08:42 am (UTC)
Limitless show your power ///
Hi Sir big fan of your work read books multiple times like most of the people. I dont know if This is the right place to ask but There is tv show called Limitless you were the one of the subject of the show as a Bribe ! I wonder did you watch it thanks best luck best wishes ....
mikki1970
Mar. 16th, 2016 12:36 pm (UTC)
The Kingslayer and the Maid of Tarth
They can't lose! They are Jaime and Brienne! They need to survive their cage match and the Song of Ice and Fire together so we have a least one happy ending!
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