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Six in a Row

The Giants got their sixth win in a row yesterday, which is great. Their longest win streak in years. Of course, it was against the hapless Cleveland Browns, who are racing toward an 0 -16 season and the first overall pick in next year's draft. I'm informed that it still counts.

Odell Beckham had an amazing afternoon, catching two TDs and returning a kick for a third... though the last was called back on a penalty, pfui. And JPP had a monster game on the defensive side of the ball, the best he's had since blowing off half his hand in a Fourth of July fireworks accident. Big Blue's D seems to be getting better every game, and JPP is a big part of that. Victor Cruz had a nice catch as well.

On the other, the win was not nearly as convincing as it should have been, considering the quality of the opposition, and there was plenty to be concerned about as well. The Giants still have no running game to speak of, and the O-line is suspect. They don't run block well, they don't give Eli enough time, and Eric Flowers commits too many holding penalties.

So while I am pleased, I am still far from convinced that the G-Men are juggernauts. The Giants are now 8-3 and well positioned for a playoff run, but the real test for them lies ahead. The easy part of their schedule ended in Cleveland. Their last five games are all tough ones. The acid test will come in their rematch with the Cowboys, who they beat in the season opener. Dallas has not lost since. Rematches with the Redskins and Eagles also await them, along with games against the Steelers and Lions. Every one of those teams is formidable, and Eli and Company will need to be playing at the top of their form to beat any of them. I just hope the Giants have saved their best for last.

As for the Jets... sigh... well, they lost again. To the Patriots. What else is new?

To be fair, Gang Green played a pretty good game. If they had played that well in some of their earlier games, they might not be 3 - 8. But they didn't, and they are. Fitz had a good game, except right at the end when it really counted.

At this point, I just don't see the sense of starting Fitz. He's not going to be with the team next season, and even if he does "give them the best chance to win," winning a few more games this season is not going to make any difference. The Jets need to look to the future and start thinking about next season, and the season after. They need to see what they have in Bryce Petty. Yes, he's young, he's raw, he will make mistakes... but he won't get better sitting on the bench. With rookie QBs like Carson Wentz and Dak Prescott tearing up the league, there's no good reason for not playing Petty, who has been in the league a season longer than either. And if he's NOT the answer, well, better to know that sooner rather than later...

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GeekFurious
Nov. 28th, 2016 07:55 pm (UTC)
Bring on the Cowherders
I am going to try to stay positive after that game because they did win and looked alright... for... half... of it. Having played football in high school, I know how easy it is for you to underestimate a team with a bad record. In my freshman year we were 0-6 before beating one of the best teams in our division because they clearly didn't take us seriously.

In my sophomore year, that same group of guys went 7-0 before going into the final game overconfident... and we got blown out something like 42-6.

Football, probably more than any other American sport, requires everyone on the team take every team seriously. And if you don't, you will find even the worst team can bite you. Giants came close to learning that lesson AGAIN yesterday.
Caleb Howell
Nov. 28th, 2016 08:07 pm (UTC)
Re: Bring on the Cowherders
As the saying goes "They are on scholarship too" (or in this case, employed by a professional football team in the highest level of competition.)
Caleb Howell
Nov. 28th, 2016 08:02 pm (UTC)
Petty
I definitely get what you're saying about putting Petty in. It seems there are coaches who try to do whatver they can in the moment, and those that prepare for the future. It would seem the best option at this point is to prepare for the future, but alas I'm not a multi millionaire prfessional football coach. The only thing I can think of is they don't want to risk an injury in an all but over season.
Wolvie58
Nov. 28th, 2016 08:10 pm (UTC)
giants
i am hoping for a Pats/G Men rematch- we need that monkey off our backs :-)
6for24
Nov. 28th, 2016 08:23 pm (UTC)
Still
I'll repeat what I said last week.... Giants get outgained/out1st-downed/out-possessed by the 0-12 Browns and survive largely due to a pick six that lands right in JPPs hands...can't count on that continuing against good teams and the playoffs...

8 wins - 7 vs .500 or worse and 6 by one score.

Yes 9-7 did win them a Super Bowl before but this team is not close to championship material right now...
ThatJohnSays
Nov. 28th, 2016 08:43 pm (UTC)
QB Comparison
With the Giants and Cowboys both on streaks, how would you compare Prescott and Manning?
grrm
Nov. 28th, 2016 09:24 pm (UTC)
Re: QB Comparison
Prescott looks like a real talent, but he's not yet elite. Eli is. However, Dallas has a much better O-line. If Eli was standing behind the Cowboys offensive line, but throwing to the Giant wideouts, he'd be leading the league in offense.

Edited at 2016-11-28 09:25 pm (UTC)
bigbadbruin270
Nov. 28th, 2016 09:49 pm (UTC)
Re: QB Comparison
Eli is elite? I mean, yeah, he's good. But elite? I don't think so. Both Super Bowls he won were do in large part to the Giants D getting to Brady time after time. Look at the Patriots right now; the Patriots have a mediocre O-line, but Brady (at 39 years of age) is playing some of the best football of his career. The Patriots are 6th in passing, and that's without a single Pro Bowl WR (though we do have the best Tight End duo in the NFL). That's what separates elite from good in my eyes.

Edited at 2016-11-29 03:37 am (UTC)
jeddavidson
Nov. 28th, 2016 09:28 pm (UTC)
Starting rookies
Speaking as a true blue cowboys fan (yes, I know how you feel about them) I think the lesson for the whole league is to invest in youth even though I acknowledge that the cowboys haven't fully embraced that methodology. It's not like Jerry Jones wants to start a rookie at QB, Dak forced him into it with his talent during a bad situation. I just doubt that the jets will go that direction. They threw too much money at Fitz to let that sit on the bench for the rest of the season (not unlike the cowboys with Romo) and the rookie, even if he gets to start, will have maybe a 1 game long leash before defaulting back a known quantity. From a pure numbers perspective Fitz had a solid game, he was pretty efficient.
grrm
Nov. 28th, 2016 10:47 pm (UTC)
Re: Starting rookies
Yes, a decent game, but he is still leading the league in INTs.
jeddavidson
Nov. 29th, 2016 02:11 pm (UTC)
Re: Starting rookies
Well there is that. Interceptions hurt.
bigbadbruin270
Nov. 28th, 2016 09:41 pm (UTC)
Same problems with the Giants.
I know I said this the last time you posted something about the Giants; but I just don't see them going all that deep in the playoffs unless their offense improves drastically. They are 31st in rushing, 12th in passing, and 21st in the NFL in points per game with an average about 21 points. That's just not gonna get it done. I mean, the D is good at 6th in the League in points per game with about 19 points allowed on average (my Patriots are 3rd with 17 points per game). But the teams in the NFC that will make the playoffs are just better. Be it the Seahawks with that number 1 D, the Falcons with that lethal offense that averages 32 points per game, or the Cowboys who are tearing up the league. I just don't see the Giants beating those kinds of teams.
grrm
Nov. 28th, 2016 10:48 pm (UTC)
Re: Same problems with the Giants.
We'll see soon enough. Those last five games are a meatgrinder. The teams that go deep in the playoffs are the ones that finish strong, getting better as the days turn cold.
bigbadbruin270
Nov. 29th, 2016 12:04 am (UTC)
Re: Same problems with the Giants.
The game that is the ultimate example of the Giants struggles was the game against the Vikings. The Vikings shut down Cruz and Beckham completely, and while the Vikings offense isn't anything to write home about, it was good enough to get the job done.

Edited at 2016-11-29 03:39 am (UTC)
sourbillytipton
Nov. 28th, 2016 09:43 pm (UTC)
Should of never signed Revis to a 5 year deal.
The Patriots have an excellent track record of letting go veteran players when they've reached the end of their prime[Ty Law, Damien Woody(both ended up with the Jets), Wes Welker...] and their stats quickly descend.

FYI George, the new Star Wars episode VIII trailer will be coming out soon. So when your fingers are slamming down on the keyboard and you're turning in the last pages of TWOW it has nothing to do with your talent as a writer. It's the FORCE!!! Accept the FORCE George, let it flow through you!
jalalnoir
Nov. 28th, 2016 10:06 pm (UTC)
Hello Mr. Martin Sir ,

It's good to know that you like sports, but why American Football ? Most mainstream sports are usually anti-nerd and we all remember what school bullies sport of choice is , so why not Tennis ?
In my part of the world football , soccer for Americans , is the top sport . I stopped supporting teams in my early teens , there was and still too much nonsense arguments about grown men playing and big companies choices. I still like watching a very talented player performing every now and then .
I like the UFC , good thing they have Demetrious Johnson , a champion and a gamer , but will I stop watching UFC fights if it becomes mainstream and bully friendly ?
Maximilian Rubell
Nov. 28th, 2016 10:22 pm (UTC)
I completely agree re: Fitz and Petty. I also feel that the team needs to start holding the defensive veterans more accountable. If Revis and Mo continue to show such a lack of effort the coaches need to be unafraid to bench them. These players are the leaders and role models whether they want to be or not.

Do you ever feel that your history with the Jets has been less painful than most because you also follow a second, far more successful team?
grrm
Nov. 28th, 2016 10:49 pm (UTC)
yes
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