?

Log in

No account? Create an account

Previous Entry | Next Entry

Jets? Jets? Jets???

What the hell are the Jets doing?

Damned if I know. "Cleaning house," some say. Maybe so. From where I sit, "Getting rid of all of my favorite players" would be more accurate.

Brandon Marshall. Darrell Revis. Nick Mangold. And there are rumors that Eric Decker may be next.

That's their best two receivers and their best lineman. Yes, Nick was getting old, and he was injured last year. Yes, Darrell was not the shutdown corner he was. Yes, all of them were expensive, and old, or getting old.

Still... is there anyone on the roster to replace them? Gang Green created tons of salary cap room with these moves, but does that help anyone but Woody Johnson? Salary cap room is great if you use it to bring in blue chip free agents, but what free agent would want to come to the Jets now?

Maybe the idea is to lose ALL the games next year, to get the number one draft pick. I haven't even paid much attention to the 2017 draft yet, the 2018 draft is completely off my radar. Is there some new John Elway/ Peyton Manning/ Andrew Luck calibre can't-miss quarterback prospect that the Jets are looking toward a year and a half out?

I fear I am in for a lot of painful Sundays next fall.

Tags:

Comments

( 29 comments )
Keith Barry
Mar. 3rd, 2017 10:10 pm (UTC)
Classic Woody
Throwing the baby out with the bath water. Brandon Marshall leaving is inexcusable.
slickpablovick
Mar. 3rd, 2017 10:11 pm (UTC)
There are a few notable QBs coming out in the draft this year. Watson of House Clemson has just triumphed and won the National Championship. Kizer of House Notre Dame is a young and cerebral lord who has blown away interviewers with his thoughtfulness. Trubinski of House UNC is more of a project, similar to Petty and Hackenburg (not what the Jets are looking for).

The WR dilemma is also problematic, although I will admit that Enuwa and Anderson are two young players who stepped up when there were injuries to the WR corps. There are a lot of WRs coming out in Free Agency, so that may be where the team goes looking. TE has always been a gaping hole in this roster.

It could be worse you could be an Eagles fan like me.
grrm
Mar. 3rd, 2017 10:50 pm (UTC)
Those QBs are the class of '17. With the sixth overall pick, the Jets could pick up one of them easily enough, assuming there is one they love. No need to cut loose all their veterans for that.

It's the class of '18 that I am wondering about. Is there a once-in-a-lifetime arm in that class?

I thought you Iggles fans were excited about Carson Wentz.
slickpablovick
Mar. 3rd, 2017 11:08 pm (UTC)
I would think the Jets invest in QB this year, because there really is no viable option to start Week 1. My class of '18 knowledge isn't as deep but I am familiar with the current NYJ roster. Bowles was a former coach in PHI as well.

And Carson Wentz is the Prince Who Was Promised.

One day he will lead us to the Iron Throne, a fixture that we have never sat upon before.
Alexander Tishler
Mar. 3rd, 2017 11:43 pm (UTC)
I can't believe Maccagnan cut all of our vets, I mean what kind of sadistic person would just cut our favorite people out of our lives with little to no closure.

On a more serious note, the 2018 QB class if very highly regarded at the top. The best prospect is Sam Darnold out of USC. A lot of the scouts are comparing him to Andrew Luck. He has the size (6'4" 225 lbs) and led USC on a 9 game win streak after starting as the backup last year. I recommend you watch his highlights from the Rose Bowl against Penn State to see a gutsy and franchise-QB worthy performance. Book it now that the saying among us Jets fans next year will be "Suck for Sam". Only thing that can get in our way is if he doesn't leave school (he's only a Redshirt Sophomore).

The other highly regarded prospect is Josh Rosen at UCLA. He was the top recruit coming out of high school and won the job as a freshman where he performed quite well before having some regression in his sophomore season due to injuries and inaccuracy. He has the size, arm, and personality to handle being a QB in NY but needs to turn it back around this year or people will lump him into the Hackenberg category.

Overall, as Jets fans we knew this rebuild would be necessary with our core talented players moving out of their primes. Time to be patient, dig in and hope that we find the QB who can turn it around and put an end to our title drought!

-Alex

Caleb Vandertulip
Mar. 4th, 2017 01:11 am (UTC)
2018 Qbs
Josh Rosen from UCLA and USC Sam Darnold are supposedly great prospects. Lots of comparisons to Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston on both being near pro ready and cant miss players. I dont believe this years crop of Qbs are worth it and have to give Hackenberg and Petty a shot.
citabria
Mar. 4th, 2017 06:58 pm (UTC)
I was thinking Jalen Hurts from Alabama, perhaps, but I'm a year ahead of myself on that. He's a freshman now and, despite some rookie mistakes, he acquitted himself well in the Championship game this year. He'll only be a sophomore in '18 so I'm not sure whether he'll even be draft eligible. He should be a major pick in '19, though, assuming he skips his senior year.



Edited at 2017-03-04 07:03 pm (UTC)
Al Mata
Mar. 5th, 2017 01:59 am (UTC)
Yeah I've read that they think the 2017 QB class is medicocre though QB's will be over drafted as usual.

I poked around a bit on 2018 and it does seem that they do think the QB class may be the best in years. Guys that I've heard buzz on are USC's Sam Darnold, UCLA's Josh Rosen, Wyoming's Josh Allen, Oklahoma's Mason Rudolph, and Washington's Jake Browning. They all are believed to be potential first round picks, the first two guys Top 5 picks.
bigbadbruin270
Mar. 3rd, 2017 10:11 pm (UTC)
Marshall wanted to leave.
Brandon Marshall wanted out. Hell, maybe he wanted to end up with a team that can win a title, a team that's also in the AFC East.

I honestly don't get why they signed Revis to such a hefty contract at his age as a CB. He's old, his play is going to dip, and we saw that last season. Hell, due to the arrest, he might not even play next season. So maybe it's smart that they let him go.

Edited at 2017-03-03 10:12 pm (UTC)
terrymcmahon312
Mar. 3rd, 2017 10:20 pm (UTC)
Solution
Root for the Patriots! There's no downside. It's not like you're in the NYC metro area anymore, right?
grrm
Mar. 3rd, 2017 10:26 pm (UTC)
Re: Solution
The Patriots are evil.
Vince Pella
Mar. 3rd, 2017 10:45 pm (UTC)
RE: Re: Solution
...with a capital E!
bigbadbruin270
Mar. 3rd, 2017 10:59 pm (UTC)
Re: Solution
Yeah, evil and successful. I'm fine with that.
timill
Mar. 4th, 2017 02:59 am (UTC)
Re: Solution
And one of the reasons they're successful is that they cut or trade players a year early rather than a year late.

Also, BB knows the NFL rulebook better than anyone, especially NFL Head Office.
bigbadbruin270
Mar. 4th, 2017 05:19 am (UTC)
Re: Solution
Sometimes that makes me sad though. I love Dont'a of House Hightower, but I think we're going to let him walk this offseason.
Mark Mouded
Mar. 3rd, 2017 11:05 pm (UTC)
RE: Solution
I'm a huge Patriots fan but I can even admit that if the NFL is the Seven Kingdoms, the Patriots are the Others.
bigbadbruin270
Mar. 4th, 2017 02:14 am (UTC)
Re: Solution
As a Pats fan, I'm fine with that.
Mike Glyer
Mar. 3rd, 2017 10:34 pm (UTC)
Salvage
It's a sad prospect but maybe you could get a story out of it -- "Jets Fan's Last Adventure."
Vince Pella
Mar. 3rd, 2017 10:43 pm (UTC)
Decker...
...is nobody's favorite player. But Marshall is the kind of player around whom you build your offense.
bjogilvie20
Mar. 3rd, 2017 11:07 pm (UTC)
2018 QB class
Yes, it does look like the Jets are cleaning house this year. The good news is, if the Jets do in fact land a top pick in next year's draft, Sam Darnold from USC will be the next big QB prospect since Andrew Luck. However, Darnold will in all likelihood be drafted #1 overall IF he decides to take his game to the pro level come 2018. It will be an all or nothing, or ironically the inverse, type of deal. If they don't end next year's season with the worst record in the league, they will not get him, barring any trades that could potentially happen.

How about them Wildcats?

Edited at 2017-03-03 11:10 pm (UTC)
grrm
Mar. 4th, 2017 01:57 am (UTC)
Re: 2018 QB class
The last time the Jets had the #1 pick in the draft, Peyton Manning decided to stay in college for his senior year, and there was no other top QB prospect.

If we get the #1 pick next year, it will happen again, just watch.

It's the Curse of Joe Willie Namath.
sourbillytipton
Mar. 4th, 2017 12:05 am (UTC)
The NFL is a young man's league.
Marshall and Decker will turn 33 and 30 this month respectively. Both are still serviceable receivers in this league but their best years are well behind them. Best to begin anew and surround the team with developing youth that will grow together. Tank for a year or two and continue to accumulate high draft picks. The only other option is to compete for a wild card spot and lose in the first round of the playoffs.

P.S. It's not 2009, Revis Island is now a Disney Resort with plenty of tourists going through the endzone every football Sunday. He was DONE before his assault charges.
Caleb Sprague
Mar. 4th, 2017 12:11 am (UTC)
Sorry
I'm sorry in advance if you have to suffer through a season like the Browns just had.

We lost almost every single good player we had (except Joe Thomas) and we only brought in RGIII basically.

We have assets this year and a decent coach, but it was rough to get through last year (I feel like I say this every year).

Will the Jets have more picks in 2018? There are always a few good players each year, but what good is waiting until the next draft unless you have flexibility to pick the guy you want?
red_scott
Mar. 4th, 2017 12:48 am (UTC)
suck for sam
Sam Darnold of USC is seen as being a once in a generation QB. As a fan, I can say he's the most obviously talented USC QB I've seen in my lifetime, and would love to see him go to the Jets. Manish Meta wrote about the Jets trying to target him in 2018 (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/suck-sam-jets-tank-usc-darnold-article-1.2966252)
Keith Russell Dulak
Mar. 4th, 2017 01:30 pm (UTC)
Join the club! Admission is painful. #gobills
elephantking41
Mar. 4th, 2017 02:27 pm (UTC)
G-Men!
At least those New York Football Giants are destined to have a better season next year. If not you should just start watching hockey. More games per week anyway.
Maximilian Rubell
Mar. 4th, 2017 05:18 pm (UTC)
I hate to say it, but every one of those decisions makes perfect sense and actually encourages me that the FO is willing to make serious, difficult decisions and think about the future.

Mangold's replacement is equal to if not better than Mangold WHEN Mangold is coming off an injury, which happens more often than not those days. And a fraction of the price, when we were 9 million over the cap.

Revis used to be my favorite player too, but his performance has simply fallen too far for his price. He is now actually an average CB and his presence as CB#1 is a liability. I don't know if it's age or effort but it was a big hole in Bowles' defense scheme which relies on man to man secondary coverage.

Marshall leaving was very sad, but he requested it himself. If he goes to the Patriots I may just kill myself. His drop rate WAS 40% this year though, I'm more sad about losing someone who inspires the team and pulls double coverage.

So yeah, I don't think the Jets necessarily plan to tank, but they ARE thinking about the future, and moving on from a bloated aging roster. We might have to lose for a few years, but that's just the result of depending on personnel that is aging, expensive, and injury-prone. I think Jets will be okay in the long run. Woody (or at least his brother) is taking things more seriously and worrying less about fan/media service, Macc seems to be smart, and I still think Bowles will be a good coach when he gets to help pick his own roster.


Edited at 2017-03-04 05:21 pm (UTC)
abbot_henderson
Mar. 5th, 2017 01:33 am (UTC)
Jets are definitely cleaning house. They have too much to replace for one year of draft picks, even if they do well in the free agency department. Best move is to view this as a rebuilding season, take what they can and try to compliment it down the road.
Alex McDonough
Mar. 5th, 2017 04:17 pm (UTC)
Lamar Jackson
George, you are in luck. I don't know who these guys are talking about the QB from USC, but Louisville's very own LAMAR JACKSON (THIS YEAR'S HEISMAN TROPHY WINNER) will probably be the number one draft pick next year, and he's a very young, humble guy with Michael Vick upside (let's hope he doesn't pick up dog fighting). That's who your Jets want.
( 29 comments )

Profile

Spain
grrm
George R.R. Martin
George R. R. Martin

Latest Month

September 2017
S M T W T F S
     12
3456789
10111213141516
17181920212223
24252627282930

Tags

Powered by LiveJournal.com
Designed by Lilia Ahner