I would LOVE to see a solid film version of Honor Harrington or Vorkosigan.

I haven't read the Praxis series. But since you're mentioning it in the same breath as Honor Harrington I think I'll check it out in the near future. Thanks for the recommendation.

I did enjoy the new Star Trek. I admit that there were weaknesses gallore, and I liked it nonetheless.

Dang.

Everyone else I know loved the movie.

I'd vote for Niven's unknown space tales,we have the technology to do the aliens now,

As much as I may have enjoyed the new Star Trek, I really *would love to see Honor Harrington, tv series or movie franchise - just not as a cartoon...

Loved it, no 'Wrath of Kahn' but as good as 'First Contact'.

George I have to respectfully disagree. I enjoyed myself very much watching this movie despite the holes in the plot. I agree there's a lack of imagination in Hollywood right now.

For the view of Trekkies, see here. ;)

I'm looking forward to it, personally, and may go see it with Linda next week.

That said, new space opera for the 21st century... Well, there's the forthcoming [i]Stargate Universe[/i] I suppose, but I guess it's part of another tried-and-true franchise.

Thank you. You're the first person on my flist here to not like the movie, which is what I needed.

I'm a stickler for the original series, and heck. I'd prefer an adaptation of some obscure Sci-Fi novels over 'new' Star Trek.

Hey, now! I'd love to see Miles Vorkosigan on the screen, but with you stealing Peter Dinklage for A Game of Thrones, who the hell do you think is talented enough to pull him off?

I liked it in a mindless sort of way, but my argument is that it didn't feel like Star Trek.

i liked it, but i had the proper expectation.

What i expected was an action-adventure romp with Star Trek makeup. And it does that very well.

But it's not real Star Trek, there's no moralizing, or allegory, or anything like that.

So, it was a poor "Star Trek" movie, but (in my opinion) a great action movie.

Fans of the old show might like the film.
I hate the film, because I love TOS. Especially the new Spock was a terribly twisted version of the old one and yes, they piss all over te original continuity to use your very fitting words.

Right now I'm trying to pretend I never watched it. ;)

I thought it was mediocre at best
The main plot was a retread of at least two of the earlier movies, with added teenage angst as a sideplot. The dialogue was at times so painful it hurt and the shoehorning in of things for each character to do was beyond irritating.
However nothing, but nothing was as continually frustrating and distracting as the CONSTANT LENS FLARE and Light Refractions on the frame.

If they were doing old sci-fi I'd want to see a live action version of the E.E. Doc Smith Skylark series. (or E.E. Smith PHD as he's apparently now known)
Failing that we must be due a Stainless Steel Rat or two.
Maybe a Citizen of the Galaxy? or a Between Planets?

I hope you realize they already have signed a contract for at least one (perhaps two) sequel(s) to this Star Trek. I liked it as a fun film, but star trek was always good at stories. I don't think these writers can pull off an even semi-good movie a second time.

Have you watched 'Farscape'? A space opera cut off in its prime; but there's a feature-length film, 'The Peacekeeper Wars', which wrapped things up. It's a very wry series.

My BFF is a Trekkie, and I'll be going to see the new film with her with some trepidation. I confess, I find it easiest to regard SF films as always taking place in an AU. Or, if they're really bad, I regard them as fanfiction. I find that that soothes my nerves.

A Miles Vorkosigan movie or TV series would rock, if well made. But I'm afraid Hollywood would makes Miles physically more attractive.

ITT: People stuck in the past

Miles Vorkosigan? Now that is intriuging!! Loved those stories!

If a pretty dead franchise has to be revived, why not Babylon 5 *sigh*

Really don't get what the hype was about, it was a reanactment with a poor plot and far too few women in general and far too many pregant ones...

I liked it. I think they had a nice, clean reason for the change in continuity and it allows them to breath some new life into the "tired old franchise".

I LOVED it. Sorry George. I love you, but I thought the writing was great. It was a nice, well acted, modernization of an old standby. I've been re-watching original series episodes for the past few months and I think that even though they updated a lot of it, they stuck by the core of the show. I've also heard a lot of people nitpick over little scientific details ... guys ... I know Trek had a lot of science involved in it ... but it's still science -fiction-. Most of the stuff in the old (and new!) shows hardly makes sense...so just sit back and enjoy!

I, like most, really liked it. I see your point about making the SF sloppy and sacrificing some of the feel of The Original Series in order to cater to the action movie-loving masses. But you at least have to admit that the action in most Star Trek incarnations is usually, well, pretty lame and this was a breath of fresh air from that perspective at least. A few other points:

I would love to see new SF on the big screen, but it seems like everything out there is either for a niche audience, or people just haven't figured out how to market it to the public without ruining it. Instead we get the occasional crap SF flick (e.g. Chronicles of Riddick) or SF in other mediums (e.g. Battlestar). Hopefully Ender's Game will be the 21st Century SF we're all hoping for.

I don't think the "they messed up the continuity" argument holds water. They made it pretty clear that this is an alternate reality, one that exists side-by-side with the old one. Was this an all-too-easy deux ex machina on the part of the writers? Sure. But in this rare case I think it was necessary to satisfy the old fans (an impossible task but at least they made the gesture) as well as having the freedom to break away from the original storyline. Like you said, as long as there's money to be made on these franchises they aren't going anywhere. So as long as they're here, I'd rather have them reinvented instead of rehashed.

And lastly, the thing I liked most about the movie was how very, very reinvented it was. This James T. Kirk wasn't the old one, he was a hardened, in-your-face Kirk as a result of growing up without a father. The previously stoic, nearly emotionless Spock was replaced with one who was FORCED to have emotion in the face of his planet's destruction, as well as unexpected love. Is it the greatest writing ever? Nah. But compelling enough to be fresh and satisfying? In my opinion, yes.

I would like to see a remake of 1999... as soon as I can figure out what it should be called.

Hopefully when Ron Howard does the Lensman movie that will give us something a little different.

Now, now, now. It is called "Nostalgia". Yes, the fans want to see the old stuff. Nothing wrong with that either. It changed television forever, it changed Science Fiction from classics like, "the blob" and "Lost in Space," to social commentary.

Sorry you didn't like it or Star Wars, but that's no reason to attack the writers and creators. A lot of people loved it.