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The Waiting Game

I know, I know. Still no announcement from HBO, alas, and I can't say when and if it will be coming. I know that many of you are going mad with impatience. Me too, actually. Sure, I know who has been cast, but I'm dying to see the reactions.

But we're all going to have to wait. HBO calls the tune. And while we have six roles filled but yet announced, others of equal importance still remain unfilled. HBO may very well be waiting until some of those pieces fall into place before making the next announcement.

Meanwhile, some of you are warm and some are very cold. One of my clues seems to have been puzzled out by many of you, so I will fess up and admit that you're correct -- yes, the line about "small but important" roles refers to two of the children. You will, alas, never get those two. Even if I told you their names, you'd never find 'em. They're not on IMDB, and when you google 'em you get dozens of listings for other people who share their names, but none for the child actors. So they're essentially unknowns... but I have seen their readings, and I think that both of them will be great.

That still leaves four adults you can try to figure out, though. And among the hundreds of theories and guesses, I've seen a couple of you getting it right... or coming close, riding the right theory to the wrong conclusion. So keep at it.

In the absence of an announcement, I'll give you a few more clues. One cast member was played by a puppet. Another has been seen wandering a castle exclaiming about roses. A third is too good to be true. The fourth is the fifth. Esquire thinks one of them is hot.

'Nuff said.

And while you guys are chewing on those, off in London and New York and LA and Dublin, casting continues. They're reading for some smaller parts now: Gared, Ser Rodrik, Maester Luwin, and the like. Even for these "lesser" roles (you know the old chestnut, there are no small roles, only small actors), we're seeing some great readings. David, Dan, and Tom are going to have some tough decisions to make. Me, I'm going out for coffee and a danish.


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Aug. 15th, 2009 02:19 pm (UTC)
Over at westeros.org, I think some of the other boarders cracked two of them (they did some great detective work):

Theon (most likely) - Alfie Allen: GRRM lists the title of his sister Lily's album as what he's listening to. He was played by a puppet in one of her music videos and he took over Daniel Radcliffe's (Harry Potter) role in Equus on the London stage. That's three things that fit for Alfie from the clues.

Dany - Tamzin Merchant - She played Katherine Howard, the 5th wife of Henry VIII on "The Tudors," so was seen on American TV recently. Howard had her head chopped off (like Ned) and finally, the girl has a GREAT look for Dany (IMO).
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Aug. 15th, 2009 07:07 pm (UTC)
I didn't give Elizabeth Banks much weight before, but looking more closely ... maybe, maybe. There's been the thought before that perhaps American actors might be preferred to the Lannisters, just on the basis of Peter Dinklage being cast as Tyrion; maybe the thought is to have the lords of the westerlands use an American accent? In any case, she doesn't seem impossible to me.

The only hitch is that she seems set to perform in a comedic film next year, although that one doesn't seem to be at the full-blown greenlight stage. I also know nothing as to her acting chops.
Aug. 15th, 2009 03:06 pm (UTC)
"One cast member was played by a puppet."

I knew it! Kim Jong Il was cast as the Hound!!!
Aug. 15th, 2009 03:17 pm (UTC)
"one cast member was played by a puppet"
Matt Damon?
Aug. 15th, 2009 04:09 pm (UTC)
Here's a question for ya. When HBO signs an actor for a particular role, is that actor signing on for what will hopefully be 7+ years or are they signing on for just the pilot right now with the series details to be worked out if & when HBO decides to actually pick up the series. In other words, will the actors we see signing up now before the pilot necessarily be the actors in the full series?
Aug. 15th, 2009 06:17 pm (UTC)
I think the idea is that HBO have a rough idea of when they will film Season 1 if there is a pick-up, so the contract would be for the actor to appear in the pilot and then Season 1, and they have to keep those dates clear. If HBO don't pick-up, the actors can then make other arrangements.

It is usually the case that the studio has the right to drop the actor and cast someone else if they don't work out in the pilot. It's not uncommon to see different actors playing the same role between the pilot and the first season (in this case the pilot would be reshot with the new actor as the first episode of Season 1).
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Aug. 15th, 2009 04:19 pm (UTC)
Is that third one too good to be true or too good to be "Tru"? Has Eliza Dushku been cast?
Aug. 15th, 2009 06:18 pm (UTC)
She is likely way too busy playing the lead on DOLLHOUSE, the second season of which will still be filming in October.
(no subject) - gege_the_dodo - Aug. 16th, 2009 07:01 am (UTC) - Expand
Aug. 15th, 2009 04:30 pm (UTC)
When you say played by puppets, all I could think of was Team America World Police.

Will Varys be played by Kim Jong Il?
The Hound played by Alec Baldwin (You're useress Arec Bardwin!)
Brienne of Tarth played by Sean Penn?
Jaime Lannister played by Matt Damon? (that actually WOULD be pretty awesome)
Tywin played by Martin Sheen?

Am I warm?

Aug. 16th, 2009 06:28 am (UTC)
Re: Puppets?
Alfie Allen was a puppet in one of his sisters' vids
Aug. 15th, 2009 04:53 pm (UTC)
The fourth is the fifth
Henry V, maybe? Which would make it either Laurence Olivier or Kenneth Branagh. As Laurence Olivier is dead, I'm guessing it's the latter.
Aug. 17th, 2009 06:09 am (UTC)
Re: The fourth is the fifth
Kenneth Branagh has played Romeo as well (George' revised rose clue). Joseph Fiennes would also fit those clues. They have both played multiple Shakespearean parts.
Aug. 15th, 2009 05:15 pm (UTC)
The 5th (unknown) cylon was Ellen Tigh! Perhaps we have a BSG star. :)

Or . . . #5: Doral (Kevin Spacey model)

How is that for way out there?

Hurry up HBO!
Aug. 15th, 2009 05:45 pm (UTC)
I Spend my summer days waiting for more news about HBO cast...XD I´m really excited with it.
Good luck!, Lord Martin, the dream brringer, the show must go on, SOIAF it´s a part of us for ever, the music of our time.
Aug. 15th, 2009 06:51 pm (UTC)
Fourth is the fifth i was thinking Aaron Doral From Battlestar who was number 5. I think he would be a great Littlefinger.
Aug. 15th, 2009 07:04 pm (UTC)
I think it would be very helpful if you told us which guesses were wrong. Either in relation to which characters are cast, or in relation to which actors are cast. Almost like you did in the comments of a previous post with one person who suggested Elizabeth Mitchell.
Aug. 15th, 2009 07:32 pm (UTC)
so how close am i?
Harry Lloyd Viserys Targaryen

Mark Addy Robert Baratheon
Sean Bean Eddard Stark

Peter Dinklage Tyrion Lannister

Jennifer Ehle Catelyn Stark
Jack Gleeson Joffrey Baratheon
Kit Harington Jon Snow
Aug. 15th, 2009 08:22 pm (UTC)
Going out for a danish...Connie Nielsen?
I saw someone else suggest the Danish actress Connie Nielsen. I like her for Cersei. That poster also said she was in Esquire. I wanted to point out she was also recently in a very small cast of the movie 'Shine of Rainbows'. Also in the cast? Jack Gleeson (already cast as Joffrey)

I've been troubling alot about age, since Ned, the twins, etc are only around 30 at the start of book. But if they are aging the kids up, maybe they'll age the adults up slightly too. They can say Robert won the throne 20 years ago.
Aug. 15th, 2009 08:53 pm (UTC)
I could be reaching here, but could Philip Winchester be cast. He and Sean Bean were in Crusoe together which was canceled and seen on American TV. I do believe he could do a decent British accent because he went to Academy of Music and Dramatic Art which is in Britain. He also starred in a live action version of a puppet show that was seen in Britain. Or I could just be hoping because he is how I saw Jaime in my mind.
Aug. 17th, 2009 02:22 am (UTC)
Sean Bean wasn't in Crusoe
Phillip Winchester, who resembles Sean Bean, played Robinson Crusoe.
Re: Sean Bean wasn't in Crusoe - lcj09 - Aug. 17th, 2009 07:00 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Sean Bean wasn't in Crusoe - metalgoddessamb - Aug. 18th, 2009 02:57 pm (UTC) - Expand
Aug. 15th, 2009 09:39 pm (UTC)
The fourth is the fifth? Twins? ;)

Puppet? Andy Serkis? IDK :P
Aug. 15th, 2009 09:49 pm (UTC)
Well, if by chance you don't find your remaining actors in London, NY, LA OR Dublin, you could always maybe possibly just happen to check out the talent in southeastern U.S.?


Aug. 15th, 2009 11:06 pm (UTC)
puppet reference
maybe the actor that played Gollum????
Aug. 16th, 2009 06:11 am (UTC)
Re: puppet reference
Andy Serkis? Having seen him guest in Spooks, I've got quite an appreciation for his versatility. Not sure how he fits any of the other clues--except for being in LotR with Sean Bean.
Aug. 16th, 2009 12:22 am (UTC)
Played by a puppet -- Boreanaz?
Aug. 16th, 2009 04:28 am (UTC)
The Harry Potter Link
I didn't get around to mentioning this in the other thread, but this clue has to do with living with an uncle, right? =)
Aug. 16th, 2009 06:26 am (UTC)
Can the Danish be Viggo M. Don't care what part, just wanted to go look him up on Wikipedia ;p
Aug. 17th, 2009 06:15 am (UTC)
Well Viggo could also fit the clue about having something in common with Ned. He played Aragorn in LOTR.
Aug. 16th, 2009 12:20 pm (UTC)
Claire Danes played Juliet in Romeo and Juliet (the stuff with claming roses and castle makes me thing of a Shaeksepeare quotes) her parent are danish. The "Oh so close" may refers to the name Juliet, not the Boney M singer. She has the right look for Cersei.
Aug. 16th, 2009 02:42 pm (UTC)
I Have it!
Too good to be true- Julia Styles in ten things i hate about you! But I think she plays to much of a bitch to be Cersei.
Also, i don't know about this, for the "fourth is the third" how about the girl from fifth element.
Aug. 16th, 2009 06:36 pm (UTC)
I'm not even going to try with the guesses. It doesn't sound like Tywin Lannister has been cast yet, but whenever I read the books I always imagine him as looking exactly like Corbin Bernsen. However, who I would really love to see playing him is Patrick Stewart. Oh to dream.
Aug. 16th, 2009 08:24 pm (UTC)
I dont know if you already have the cast of jojen but if you dont can you please tell me. I want to play him so bad but the auditions are nowhere near Puerto Rico so if there is another way of auditioning please let me know.
Aug. 17th, 2009 06:21 pm (UTC)
Re: Jojen
Casting is only being done for the pilot episode. Jojen would not be cast until the show got a second season (*knocks on wood*), so you're going to have to wait a good year and change. In that time, if you're serious about it, you're going to want to try and get an agent and get yourself to New York or L.A. to start acting.
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