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Pity Poor Missouri

ConQuest (in Kansas City) and Archon (in St. Louis) are two of my favorite regional conventions. I've been attending both, off and on, for decades. I have lots of good friends in Missouri. Some of them are even football fans.

This has not been their year, to say the least. The Chiefs and the Rams are both 0-4, and the prospects of either one getting better soon is not high. And now, to drip some acid into the wounds, ESPN reports that right-wing gasbag Rush Limbaugh is attempting to buy the Rams.

Oh, dear.

If this goes through -- and I certainly hope that it does not -- I wonder how all the black players on the Rams will feel about playing for such an outspoken racist? Or perhaps Rush will attempt to emulate George Preston Marshall, former owner of the Redskins, who kept his team all white when the rest of the league had integrated.

Oh, and here's some sportswriters from all across the country weighing in on the prospects of Rush as an NFL owner:


Nice to see some people speaking out.



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Oct. 6th, 2009 10:26 pm (UTC)
Not a fan of this. I understand the leftwing viewpoint, but outspoken racism? A little much.
Oct. 6th, 2009 10:42 pm (UTC)
Re: Wow
He got fired from ESPN for his Donovan McNabb statements. His comments about Nelson Mandela, Darfur, Sotomayor, and Obama are all on the record. Couldn't be much plainer.
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Oct. 6th, 2009 10:34 pm (UTC)
an answer
I don't suppose that Meereenese knot you're always talking about can be solved by somehow writing Rush Limbaugh into the story and subsequently killing him off. Painfully. Slowly.

If not, do you just want to do it for kicks anyway?
Oct. 7th, 2009 01:13 am (UTC)
Re: an answer
Yeah, give him over to (ex)Maester Qyburn.
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Oct. 6th, 2009 10:40 pm (UTC)
can't someone feather that guy while hes on the privy.
Oct. 6th, 2009 10:45 pm (UTC)
Great, now football will have a Marge Schott too
Oct. 6th, 2009 10:51 pm (UTC)
The Utah Rams....

His partner to be Dave Checketts did a good job (sort of) with the Knicks. He inherited Patrick, but brought in Pat. He never could bring in another top player to team with Ewing. When he became President of Madison Square Garden the Rangers and the Knicks became perennial losers. He's still persona non grata in the Garden. They deserve each other. A brilliant bighead and a bigmouth bighead. I guess Rush will be converting soon.
Oct. 6th, 2009 11:11 pm (UTC)
Speaking of NFL Racism
And speaking of NFL racism, has anyone noticed that there is a team called the Redskins? Why is this team allowed, let alone tolerated, let alone embraced by millions of fans?
Oct. 6th, 2009 11:31 pm (UTC)
Re: Speaking of NFL Racism
I know. I don't understand why the NFL won't do the right thing. I will bet that no individual would have the balls to go into an Indian reservation and call the residents Redskin. And yet, those same individuals would hide behind their racist beliefs and say that people who object to the name are too sensitive.
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Oct. 6th, 2009 11:24 pm (UTC)
See, to many of us Northern Californians, this makes perfect sense.

We get to combine our dislike of the (formerly Los Angeles) Rams with our dislike of Rush.

Win-Win, as far as I'm concerned!
Oct. 7th, 2009 12:07 am (UTC)
With luck the team will draft someone from Rio Linda...
Oct. 6th, 2009 11:30 pm (UTC)
I feel like i have some idea of what's actually going on in American Football thanks to your updates. It was really helpful when i visited USA earlier in the year. People though i actually followed it!

When you come to Australia next year (early Septemeber) it will be finals time for the Australian Football League (AFL). You and Paris should come watch a game! If you are interested please let me know and i can organise it for you.

Oct. 6th, 2009 11:44 pm (UTC)
Re: Footy!
We've been to Aussie rules games, actually. Back in the infancy of the all sports channel, ESPN, they used to run a lot of Aussie rules games in the wee hours of the morning. Parris and I became fans of the Essendon Bombers, who were one of the big teams back then, defeating Hawthorne to win the championship.
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Oct. 6th, 2009 11:35 pm (UTC)
Limbaugh owning the Rams will make it easy for the defense of opposing teams.

There is no way The Rams will go to the left!
Oct. 6th, 2009 11:50 pm (UTC)
And the team will most definitely be heavy, on the offensive side.
Oct. 6th, 2009 11:46 pm (UTC)
On The Fence

On the plus side, Rush Limbaugh would give me the perfect excuse to leave my woebegotten Rams, finally.

Though having an heiress as an owner - one who (allegedly) may have drowned her own husband - isn't much better.

(Why yes, I -will- argue that a possible single-time in-it-for-the-money murderess is a smidge better than someone who poisons peoples' minds with hate and paranoia on a daily basis. I don't seem to remember Hitler pulling any triggers himself either.)

But Jesus, who would I root for? I was always a big Joe Willie guy, but he wasn't just a Jet.

Kurt Warner's still with the Cards. Hmmm...
Oct. 6th, 2009 11:56 pm (UTC)
Ahhhhh the tolerance of the Left.
Oct. 7th, 2009 12:55 am (UTC)
Why exactly are we supposed to tolerate the racist things Limbaugh has said? Could you explain your comment please?
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On a totally awesomer note! - betasignal - Oct. 7th, 2009 04:49 pm (UTC) - Expand
Oct. 7th, 2009 12:03 am (UTC)
Rush Limbaugh is a walking, and unfortunately talking, example of just about every negative stereotype people have about Americans.

Racist, loud-mouthed, arrogant and ignorant of the world outside of his little bubble. I'm lucky to have met enough decent Americans to know that the likes of him aren't representative.

As for football, I'm wondering if the NFL have a 'Fit and Proper Persons' test along similar lines to that which people must pass to own English Premier League (soccer) clubs. I can guarantee that Limbaugh wouldn't pass.
Oct. 7th, 2009 03:02 am (UTC)
It is possible for sports leagues to keep someone from buying a team, at least it is in baseball. But baseball has certain special exemptions in law that other leagues don't have because it's designated as America's "Official National Pastime." They are allowed to have a monopoly on the game, whereas other leagues don't. They also have broader powers to govern themselves than other leagues without interference from the Federal Government.

Still, since the NFL has certain rights to protect its brand, they might well have the power to allow or disallow ownership of someone they feel might bring a bad or even controversial light to the game as a whole. For instance, if a known mobster or drug trafficker (who had managed to avoid conviction) wanted to buy the team, I think they could well deny the sale.
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Oct. 7th, 2009 12:53 am (UTC)
Snyder?!?!? Pfauw!
Jerry "Botox Huffer" Jones is the most hated owner, having passed* Zombie Al Davis a long time ago.

*Yes, just like a kidney stone, actually.
Re: Snyder?!?!? Pfauw! - flugel_horn - Oct. 7th, 2009 04:57 pm (UTC) - Expand
Oct. 7th, 2009 12:31 am (UTC)
oi vey
I'm here in Missouri. Used to live in St. Lou and plan to move back one day. Checketts (though more importantly, John Davidson) has done an awesome job with the Blues, but that's beside the point. The point is Limbaugh.

While I do find myself listening to him from time to time while at work, there's very little that I wholly agree with him on. Kind of a morbid curiosity that draws me to him. To me, he's more like a conspiracy theorist. Every word that comes from his mouth is perfectly predictable and follows the little left wing trickery he spouts on about. Dunno why he's the most popular blowhard; possibly because he blows the hardest, but he doesn't offer anything new, original, or constructive to debating. He pulls things out of the headlines (or not in the headlines, if you believe the Left control the media, even though the Right monopolizes talk radio) and picks things out that make Dems look bad and ignores those that make Republicans look bad.

That said, the Rams are saaaaaad this year. I think I heard Dick Vermeil was going to hold a press conference just to cry about this team's performance. All we have to look forward to now is a top 3 pick. BTW, who are the likely top candidates? Tebow? or is he not quite NFL caliber?
Oct. 7th, 2009 12:49 am (UTC)
Sorry GRRM, you're wrong. Rush isn't just a racist he's an overall bigot spewing hate!
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