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ICE & FIRE role playing game

I have reached a final settlement with Guardians of Order, the Canadian games company that published the role-playing game based on A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE before going under last year.

We're now all square, and that license has officially expired. It is not the ending that I would have hoped for, but I'm glad to have concluded things amicably.

As part of our settlement, I have acquired the remaining stock of the deluxe, limited edition of the RPG worldbook, a huge and lavishly illustrated hardcover. I will be listing the book for sale on the "Signed Books" page of my website in the very near future, but I thought I'd give my Not-a-Bloggers a little advance notice.

If any of you want to snag a copy, the price is $100, which includes book rate shipping within the United States (overseas is more). This is a big and beautiful book with lots of great artwork, and tons of background material on the world of Westeros that may be of interest even to those who do not play role-playing games. And needless to say, I would be glad to sign and inscribe the book on request. You can get a look at the cover and some of the graphics by scrolling back through the Archives sections of the news page.

(Please email if you are interested, don't comment about it here).

There will be another RPG in the future. I am considering offers from several other companies right now, and expect to have a new license to announce within the next couple of months,


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Mar. 7th, 2007 08:04 pm (UTC)
Seeing ASOIAF statted up for RuneQuest would be interesting . . . not least because (unless I'm remembering wrong) Wild Cards grew out of GRRM's old Superworld game, which itself was an RQ variant, so it would be sort of bringing things full circle.
Mar. 7th, 2007 08:32 pm (UTC)
Mongoose previously expressed some interest in trying to help out GoO when the word of the problems first came out, so who knows what might be happening down the road. I expect if they got the license that they'd probably go the route of doing the game both in d20 and RQ versions.

I wonder how one would convert something like the social status/house mechanics from GoO's game to RQ... Hrm.
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Mar. 7th, 2007 08:33 pm (UTC)
I'll have to check funds with my husband... I remember spotting the book for $50 and that was a little more than I can afford. :(
Mar. 7th, 2007 08:34 pm (UTC)
Not that it didn't look like it was worth the money. Only that, well, I don't have a lot of it.
Mar. 7th, 2007 09:07 pm (UTC)
Slightly off topic
Speaking of signed books, you don't happen to have a two copies of Dreamsongs lying around somewhere do you?

I know I can order unsigned copies from amazon.co.uk. However, the only time I could get them signed would be the weekend you're in Indy, and I have to be at a work function that Saturday. I want to give them as gifts to a couple people in our wedding this August.

If you don't want to comment here, you can email me at ckauzlarich at gmail dot com. Thanks George :)
Mar. 7th, 2007 09:45 pm (UTC)
This doesn't really pertain to this that or the other; however, i was just wondering if there was a poster map of westeros other than the one that comes with the one book. I would really love one to display on my wall, but I didn't really want the one with the book because it wasn't as big as i'd have liked it to be. anyway, see, i told you this didn't pertain to anything. i was just wondering.
Mar. 7th, 2007 09:55 pm (UTC)
By "the one book", do you mean the poster map in the RPG?

There's one other poster map, which you can be found in Dragon #307. I'm pretty sure it's the same size as the one in the GoO RPG, however.
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Mar. 7th, 2007 10:00 pm (UTC)
As an owner of the Deluxe edition of this book I strongly advise that you get it. It's lovely! :) Good to hear that more RPG stuff is on the way! *thumbs up* You sure take care of us, George!
Mar. 7th, 2007 10:07 pm (UTC)
Oh My Gawd!! Why aren't you working on the book!!!111 I'm an idiot!

(Figured I'd slide that in before someone else did.)

I enjoyed this book, though I've never actually played it. (Much like the board game, alas.) The Northeast BWB is way too interested in alcohol to find time for unabashed geekery.

But I for one want more merchandise. Action figures. A massively multiplayer online game. A Strong Belwas sex doll.

You know, the good stuff.
Mar. 7th, 2007 10:08 pm (UTC)
I just realized I look like a total fanboy with that avatar. My bad.
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Mar. 7th, 2007 10:12 pm (UTC)
I really liked the system that Guardians of the Order did with the standard d20 rules. They modified it very well to fit the style of the setting. Do you think that if another d20 based company picked up the liscense that they would (for the most part) keep the system as it is an merely expand upon it or is it more likely that the system will be completely redone?
Mar. 7th, 2007 10:17 pm (UTC)
Good news
This is excellent news. GoO put out a good product, and I only hope the successor can do the same. I also have digital copies of the two created adventure modules for the game (tracking down the GM screen, but it's tough); I have direct permission from one of the module authors and indirect permission from the other to host them and hand them out freely so long as they're credited, though it'd be best to get Mr. Martin's opinion. Provided he says it's OK, I'll put up the link where they're at.

Also, forgive me for directly contradicting the original post, but where do we email you to express interest in purchasing the deluxe edition?
Mar. 7th, 2007 10:40 pm (UTC)
Re: Good news

See this post by Eefster, it points to GRRM's e-mail address. :)
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Mar. 7th, 2007 10:20 pm (UTC)
Oh, I suppose you're the "Jason Durall" I've heard about. We've never spoken directly, but J Scoble contacted you for me and said that you gave me permission (through the fan forums we started) to host the Bonds of Blood and Honor adventure (Thiara spoke to me separately about Trouble in Pembrooke).
Mar. 8th, 2007 10:09 pm (UTC)
I am indeed that guy. Feel free to post it wherever. I'm just sorry that it never saw print, and didn't make its way to all of the folks who deserved to get copies along with their deluxe editions.
Mar. 7th, 2007 10:46 pm (UTC)
Thrilled to hear that the AGoT RPG will live again...I already have the deluxe edition, but I think a second copy would be a worthy investment since we're starting our campaign as soon as the last player finishes the novels.

Any thoughts about approaching Citadel Minatures or Hogshead games in England about producing both the RPG and/or a minatures game for the books? Alot of us gamers have always thought that wars between the various houses would make an excellent wargame. After all you have several factions, each with a unique flavor and style...food for thought.

Now to eagerly await the next novel.
Mar. 7th, 2007 11:41 pm (UTC)
Testors once announced that it would be producing a miniatures skirmishing game. All sorts of problems have come up with their announced product lines, but they did exhibit some miniatures and terrain at Gencon (I think), they did produce at least a draft set of rules designed by Andy Card (initially, anyways; I think it was then done in-house after he was hired by Blizzard), and Tom Meier said a few months ago that he had been told to send his master miniatures to a third party for (IIIRC) mass production.

No word on it since then, but I'd guess that if Testors ultimately doesn't do a miniatures game, it'll be awhile before the license is free and clear.
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Mar. 7th, 2007 11:01 pm (UTC)
Bugger! My kingdom for an extra $100! I should never have paid all those overdue bills with my tax refund.
Mar. 7th, 2007 11:18 pm (UTC)
me want book.

I don't play RPGs, except for some online ones, but I like shiny glossy things!
Mar. 8th, 2007 12:37 am (UTC)
Heh, I own a copy of that, purchased not too long before GoO went out of business. If it involves a deluxe edition and your signature, I'm gonna go ahead and opt to buy it. I'll keep my eye on the site for updates regarding this.

Awesome stuff. As for Pen & Paper / Tabletop RPGs, I can't recommend a company even after playing for 15 years. Since TSR was acquired I'm not sure Wizards of the Coast / Hasbro would give you any good treatment but you do have the added bonus of comfort, trusting they won't go under. White Wolf tends to publish grittier settings, most of which are original. (In fact the only non-original licensed world they did was Street Fighter, from the game series of the same name, but that project failed.) So they might enjoy your product, and in my experience they seem to reflect much more on literary content than just game functionality.

Anyway good luck with all that stuff. :) I'll be checking back religiously for a chance to get your signature on an RPG book!
Mar. 8th, 2007 01:17 am (UTC)
White Wolf have actually published licensed settings in the past (they published Ravenloft for a few years under license from WotC). WW have also acquired and published the new edition of Big Eyes, Small Mouth which was previously owned and published by Guardians of Order. They also publish the Pendragon RPG which was previously published by Chaosium and Green Knight Games.

Now that WW have themselves been taken over it'll be interesting to see what happens with them. I know they are now developing a RPG based upon the popular EVE MMORPG (which considering the company that brought them is the company behind EVE isn't really surprising I guess :p). We'll wait and see.
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Mar. 8th, 2007 01:06 am (UTC)
For those of you reading comments who are not sure...

Buy the book. It's gorgeous. The artwork alone is worth the cost, but the supplementary material, the system alone are really well put together. It's a shame the company didn't work out. I love my copy.

--Ser Toryx of the Lamprey Pie
Mar. 8th, 2007 02:29 am (UTC)
Is this the World Book that's coming out or the D20 game guide?
Mar. 12th, 2007 12:58 am (UTC)
The D20 game guide which came out in late 2005. The World of Ice and Fire is a separate project which will game out some time after ADWD is published.
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