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Dancing in Circles?

((Some of what follows may be vaguely spoilerish. Don't read if you hate spoilers).

A DANCE WITH DRAGONS just got a little shorter.

What's happened is, I've decided to move two completed chapters, from Arianne's POV, out of the present volume and into THE WINDS OF WINTER. This is something I've gone back and forth on. Arianne wasn't originally supposed to have any viewpoint chapters in DANCE at all, but there's this... hmmm, how vague do I want be? VERY vague, I think... there's this event that would of necessity provoke a Dornish reaction. The event was originally going to occur near the end of the book, but in one of my forty-seven restructures I moved it to the late middle instead. And the timeline then required that the Dornish reaction happen in this book and not the next one, so I wrote the two Arianne chapters and was going to write a third... and a chapter from another POV that would be a necessary complement to them, and...

But no, I've restructured again, and put the original precipitating event back close to the end of the book. Which means the Arianne chapters can be returned to WINDS, where I had 'em originally. It also means that I don't have to write that third Arianne chapter and the complementary chapter from the other POV... not yet, anyway... which moves DANCE two chapters closer to completion. (The move did mean I had to revise two chapters from another POV, which took place after the event in last week's draft, but now take place before said event, but fortunately that was just a matter of tweaking a couple of lines).

I suppose this is a good news/ bad news situation.

Bad news for those who want DANCE to be really, really, really long, as long as STORMS OF SWORDS or longer. This move makes DANCE four chapters (two written, one partly written, one entirely unwritten) shorter.

But it's good news for DANCE, since I'm now two chapters (the ones I hadn't finished) closer to completion. And hey, it's even good news for WINDS OF WINTER, since I now have four chapters done for that one (an Arya, a Sansa, and two Ariannes).

This, of course, is assuming that I don't change my mind again tomorrow and put everything back the way it was last week.

I am dancing, boys and girls, I'm dancing as fast as I can. But some days it does feel as if I am dancing in circles.


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Jun. 28th, 2010 02:28 am (UTC)
Finished Book-->Publishing Time + Valyrian Steel
I don't know if you get paid out different percents on royalties from the UK to US, but i guarantee every single one of us will be ordering the UK edition (seeing how it usually comes out a few months earlier). I'm guessing at least half of us will express mail it, and the a quarter of us will get it read it within 72 hrs... i'm already planning a "family emergency" for clinicals.

How long is it gonna take to publish once ur done? I mean do u really need a editor... u edit enough books on ur own, i'll proof read for u don't worry.

*****Valyrian Steel***** i'm about to order Damascus Longclaw on WWW.VALYRIANSTEEL.COM (check it out guys) .... but...

with Valyrian Resin you were explaining how the guy made it had rights to ur books not HBO, and there for couldnt make figurines in the likeness of the HBO cast...

Is it the same deal with V.Steel? I read on their website that u are pretty hands-on in terms of helping designing the swords and what not... telling them if thats the right size, right look-- But when i watch Game of Thrones is the Longclaw on my wall gonna look nothing like the Longclaw on TV? I know, i know... but it's a 600 dollar commitment that's the only reason i'm asking really... (You can get stainless steel one with Damascened pattern for 200)
Jun. 28th, 2010 05:34 am (UTC)
Re: Finished Book-->Publishing Time + Valyrian Steel
Yes, I'm afraid it's the same deal with Valyrian Steel.

Their license predates my deal with HBO. The producers have hired an armorer to design the weapons in the show, and he wants to do his own designs.

Only Valyrian Steel has the right to produce full scale replica weapons in metal for the collector's market. HBO will have the right to produce inexpensive plastic replicas of their designs for sale in your local toy store.
Jun. 28th, 2010 03:00 am (UTC)
I must admit I hope that you finish Dance soon since I just had one copy of Throne fall apart from being re-read (fortunately, I had a second copy). And Storm isn't much better. A new novel to take the abuse of being read so many times would help. ;)

Soon as in... this year or next. :D
Jun. 28th, 2010 03:38 am (UTC)
That's really good news...from my POV. I recently finished Feast and couldn't really grasp the significance of the chapters on Arianne, and I suppose I won't until I read Dance...which makes me excited because it's coming closer to DONE!

Don't get me wrong...I understood fully the significance of Dorne and the sand vipers and the vastly different traditions and environment and how it relates to the Targaryens, but it was like a short story which only led to a single sentence with a vague message concerning Dorne's activities across the sea. I liked the story, but will most likely have to reread those chapters immediately before starting my read of Dance.

My meaning is that moving another such story to Winds will most likely make Dance as a book in it's own right less of an anticlimax and have a more satisfying ending.
Jun. 28th, 2010 04:04 am (UTC)
Most dancing is in circles. (Or squares. Or lines...)
A slow dance may take longer to get you back where you came from, but it's the journey not the destination right?
Jun. 28th, 2010 04:04 am (UTC)
I love checking in and finding these ADWD updates!

I read one comment which said they hoped it would be released in fall...but that can't be possible, could it? Even if you finished today, isn't it usually at least six months before a book hits the shelves?

I'm obviously not complaining. I just thought it was odd that some are hoping for a fall release. That's just not possible at this point, is it?
Jun. 28th, 2010 04:35 am (UTC)
You'll find...
No worries, take your time. Soon that second left foot will return back into a right.
Jun. 28th, 2010 04:51 am (UTC)
You finish when you finish.
Hopefully the business side does not interfere too much with your enjoyment of telling a story.
Jun. 28th, 2010 05:47 am (UTC)
This is an incredible update! I miss all the characters, if I could have things my way, the books would never end. I would love Dance of Dragons to be as looong as possible, but 4 chapters doesn't sound too too bad :)
Jun. 28th, 2010 05:48 am (UTC)
I was never very good at dancing either... especially not in circles. I only grow dizzy.
Jun. 28th, 2010 08:41 am (UTC)
I don't know why some or you sers and ladies are worried on book's length.
Previous books were superb, this one will probably be.
Who cares if it contains 200 or 1000 pages.

It's quality, not quantity.

Keep the good job George.
Jun. 28th, 2010 11:55 am (UTC)
Thank you for the update, we all appreciate it, and i'm sure we will all prefer quality to quantity

I have a question regarding the creative process if you don't mind.

When you first started A Song of Ice and Fire, did you have a start, middle and end already planned out, or just a general concept? and how does that initial plan compare to where you are now?
Jun. 28th, 2010 12:33 pm (UTC)
This is most excellent news! Though for me the greatest news is that Sansa and Arya (more Sansa for me, I'm one of those minority readers who prefers Sansa over Arya) survive to Winds of Winter. =D

Thank you for the exciting post!
Jun. 29th, 2010 02:42 am (UTC)
i find it great that fans are thrilled when characters survive a book and dare not get too optimistic about series end
Jun. 28th, 2010 12:41 pm (UTC)
Well, I'm glad things are slowly, but surely working out for the book. And while I hope to read the book soon, I just want it as well written as possible. And we have the HBO show to coming so that will keep me occupied for a bit. =)
Jun. 28th, 2010 12:51 pm (UTC)
Very good news, indeed. Thanks for the update.

Regarding TWoW....there's a Sansa chapter, you say? Sansa, not Alayne?

How wonderful. ;D
Jun. 28th, 2010 01:25 pm (UTC)
Keep dancing like there is nobody watching. As corny as that saying may be, it's what you need to do.

This is a really big project to tie up and say goodbye to. None of us want you to rush it. Although I'm sure we'd all prefer the pace of a good old Irish jig as opposed to a Vienna waltz.
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