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Lights, Camera, Action

It's evening in Belfast, and the first day of shooting is now in the can.

Feels strange. Exciting, but also... I don't know, maybe I'm feeling a bit of empty nest syndrome. My kids have left home, and are making their own way in the world.

I'd wish good luck to everyone involved in the HBO production, but I recall that you never say that in the theatre. Maybe everyone concerned break several legs.

And me... well, a blank computer screen awaits. Still a lot of story to tell.

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princeopansies
Jul. 26th, 2010 08:35 pm (UTC)
I'm still fretting about Robert Arryn being renamed as Robin, even if I can understand their somewhat twisted logic.

It's not like the books aren't packed with numerous similarly named characters(Mother have mercy when they show House Frey!), and "Robin" barely gets screen-time anyhow.
And when he does get it, much, much later on, the other significant Robert they were so worried about is already off-screen for good(unless you mean to revive him as a wight...I bet he'll be the only wight still wenching and getting drunk). And as you yourself mentioned, that similarity was plot point, smallish as it was.

Oh well, having just listened to Tyrion's first big battle in the AGoT audio-book I can't wait to see it on the screen.
grrm
Jul. 27th, 2010 01:09 am (UTC)
One of the items of conventional wisdom you hear when you're a little bitty neo-writer is, "Never give two characters in your story a name beginning with the same letter, or the readers will get them confused."

I followed that for many years, but very early on with GAME OF THRONES, I realized that I wanted to have more than twenty-six characters, so there went the rule.

Actually, ICE & FIRE breaks all sorts of naming conventions for fiction. I took my cue from history instead, where nobles families tended to use the same names over and over. English history is all Edwards and Henrys. (Princes named things like Arthur, Eustace, and Alphonso never seemed to live long enough to inherit the crown). Thus the naming patterns of Westeros... which are more realistic than those seen in most fantasy fiction, I dare say, but perhaps more confusing as well.

Edited at 2010-07-27 01:09 am (UTC)
mr_tomski
Jul. 27th, 2010 12:05 pm (UTC)
Maybe
More confusing maybe, but I thought that the fact that John Arryn and Eddard Stark both called their first son Robert was a really nice touch which went one little step further in showing their relationship to Robert Baratheon.

(and the fact that he didn't name any of this "sons" Eddard or John went a fair way to explaining Robert's relationship with his wife!!)
princeopansies
Jul. 27th, 2010 01:19 pm (UTC)
First I'd like to thank you for replying to my comment, you do me an honor.

I figured as much- you only have to look around the street, not even peek into royal courts, to see that a lot of names are reused all the time. Hell, I myself am named after my grandfather(even if my name is quite rare these days), and my older sister after the grandmother.

I understand the reasoning behind the HBO decision, but it still reeks from "stupid viewers might get confused and we don't want to upset them". Sure, I understand how the business works, even if I'm unhappy with it.

I also wanted to add what you yourself said, that it gives your world realism to have consistent, related names.

And keep up smacking at that damn, dirty ape!
douglaswweb
Jul. 27th, 2010 02:51 pm (UTC)
I believe the only time I really got confused was with the Freys (Walder, Walter? Oh man...). I had trouble keeping the Dornish straight as well, until I read through the second time. I feel like I retained a lot more the second time through. I suppose that is probably typical , though.
makamoto
Jul. 27th, 2010 05:30 pm (UTC)
Here's another way of looking at it. If that is people's biggest concern at this point, HBO must be doing something right!
mmepompadour
Jul. 27th, 2010 11:22 pm (UTC)
I do want to tell you that, from a history major's point of view, I found that to be SUCH a nice touch indeed.

Subtle details like that (common noble naming conventions), are what make this series so "real" feeling, despite being a fictional world in a fantasy setting. This is just a single example of how magnificently you do this throughout the books - you weave elements of believable medieval/Renaissance history into this fictitious setting. That's why yours are the fantasy books I recommend to readers who aren't typically 'fantasy' people.

So:

Thank you for that. Very, very much.

Edited at 2010-07-27 11:22 pm (UTC)
thomas_thomas
Jul. 28th, 2010 04:30 pm (UTC)
Names
Both the movies and literature survived Sauruman and Sauron.

Its nice to have some common sense applied to names as most noble (as well as regular) families reuse names and even use pronounceable ones.

TomT

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