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I haven't made a political post in a long, long time.

I'd make one now, except just thinking about it depresses me. I was not happy about the results of the midterm, needless to say... and I am even less happy, if possible, about this "compromise" that Obama has made with the GOP on taxes. From where I sit, it smells more like capitulation than compromise. Give a lot, get almost nothing.

Obama is the most intelligent president we've had since Jimmy Carter... and, sad to say, he is looking more and more like Jimmy every day. A good man, but not a good leader. At least not so far. He doesn't seem to have the stomach for a fight. We need another FDR, another JFK, another LBJ. NOT Jimmy II. (And, yes, I know, Obama has accomplished some important stuff. But so did Jimmy. Camp David accords, remember?)

Yeats was writing about his own time in "The Second Coming," I know, but sometimes I think he was prescient:

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

And could that rough beast whose hour has come round at least be... Sarah Palin?

No, please. Tell me that's just a bad dream. Somebody wake me up.

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gonzo21
Dec. 15th, 2010 10:21 pm (UTC)
My feeling for it is that Palin is about the only candidate the Republicans could nominate to run, who ~can't~ beat Obama.

So in a sense, we should maybe hope that they will be dumb enough to go with her.
malegrim
Dec. 16th, 2010 12:20 am (UTC)
I agree. Palin doesn't scare me half as much as Huckabee, Romney, or Pawlenty.
(no subject) - gonzo21 - Dec. 16th, 2010 01:36 pm (UTC) - Expand
Ryan Harkness
Dec. 15th, 2010 10:24 pm (UTC)
It'd be Cersei running the Seven Kingdoms all over again
Where's a Targaryen princess when you need her???
missysedai
Dec. 15th, 2010 11:46 pm (UTC)
Re: It'd be Cersei running the Seven Kingdoms all over again
celticblood05
Dec. 15th, 2010 10:25 pm (UTC)
Look, I'm pretty much on your side with everything you believe in politically, but this friendly fire coming from people on my own side aimed at Obama is insane. He bought jobless benefits for people who really need them with this compromise, something he had no chance of getting otherwise. He also promised to work bipartisanly and takes that promise very seriously. I think its one of the reasons he was elected.

I can see the argument that he doesn't like political fighting, but if I had to point at a reason for that, its likely he's still shell shocked over the stuff he had to deal with in the health care debate. And I'm not just talking about the purveyors of lies on FOX news, I'm talking about the people who stopped paying attention the second the public option was gone, as if this wasn't a debate that had been going on for 100s of years and everything was going to change automatically.

I say, cut Obama a break, give him a bit of leverage and a chance to recover for a spell, then see if he's willing to throw some punches.
malegrim
Dec. 16th, 2010 12:22 am (UTC)
Me, I'm waiting to see what he does when the deadline for extending the debt ceiling looms. I can buy the argument that he was using this opportunity to extract as much as he could from the lame-duck Congress. The big showdown is still to come.
(no subject) - eeepeeep - Dec. 16th, 2010 01:17 am (UTC) - Expand
Uh, Really? - m0beus - Dec. 16th, 2010 01:40 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Uh, Really? - decarlso2000 - Dec. 17th, 2010 03:52 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - zemiron - Dec. 16th, 2010 02:54 am (UTC) - Expand
"He bought jobless benefits" - alwaysoptimistc - Dec. 16th, 2010 04:28 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: "He bought jobless benefits" - celticblood05 - Dec. 16th, 2010 01:42 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: "He bought jobless benefits" - sam_crecelius - Dec. 16th, 2010 11:43 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: "He bought jobless benefits" - malegrim - Jan. 12th, 2011 01:55 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - taskboy3000 - Dec. 16th, 2010 03:29 pm (UTC) - Expand
Devil's Advocate Anyone??? - hotcarnut - Dec. 17th, 2010 10:05 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Devil's Advocate Anyone??? - celticblood05 - Dec. 18th, 2010 02:41 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Devil's Advocate Anyone??? - sir_umm - Jan. 7th, 2011 07:53 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - geekavenger - Dec. 21st, 2010 03:13 pm (UTC) - Expand
forbiddenkisss
Dec. 15th, 2010 10:26 pm (UTC)

And could that rough beast whose hour has come round at least be... Sarah Palin?


Oh lord I hope not. I would cry.
eeepeeep
Dec. 16th, 2010 01:11 am (UTC)
So would a goodly number of libertarians and conservatives. She may be good for the movement because she gets people energized, but beyond being a keynote speaker at an event she is not of much use.

I don't think I know anyone who wants her to be president. (that said she draws much more fire than she should from the media and blogosphere. Stop giving her more attention than she deserves)
:) - Mike Bowen - Dec. 16th, 2010 10:54 pm (UTC) - Expand
manheor
Dec. 15th, 2010 10:33 pm (UTC)
And what's the answer?
Hi, George. Spanish reader and writer and a few quotes in your blog.

Yeah, we need a leader. But is enough with only a leader if we keep this system moving?

I don´t know what you think, but I believe that every rational person, and you probe in your books that you are more that rational, see that the real problem lays in the system itself.

The bottom line is: the most of money are ruled but the fewer people.

And all the problems, economical, international, even religious lays in this injustice.

If we can´t fix these leak, if we can think that our occidental full bellys (and not every occidental bellys) needs to get in fit in order that others can eat, we can do anything.

But the leak will grow.

We need something more that a leader.

We need an V.

Is the time to do something radical that probe people that we aren´t only wheels that move the system. We are people. We think. We can change everything with only say this day was the last. Enough.

And the pitty thing is that almost everyone realiced when they are with himselves. But in the moment of act, we fail, we shut our mouths and we keep the injustice raping all that is good in our nature.

And that makes me very sad.
paulwoodlin
Dec. 15th, 2010 10:42 pm (UTC)
http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

I hope that cheers you up. It helped me.
indigofan
Dec. 16th, 2010 03:10 am (UTC)
I loved this. :)
(no subject) - oosabeansaladen - Dec. 16th, 2010 01:42 pm (UTC) - Expand
coscaram
Dec. 15th, 2010 10:45 pm (UTC)
The idea of Sarah Palin "slouching towards Wasilia" is rather frightening. She's reminding me of Andy Griffith, in A Face in the Crowd.
Mitt Romney seems to be taking the "appearing presidential" road. I am not a fan, but will give him credit for intelligence. I just think that he changes his stripes a little to easily.
m0beus
Dec. 16th, 2010 01:34 am (UTC)
Mitt Romney
Funny thing is, I'm pretty sure that if I got to meet Mitt Romney I'd dislike him, and I'm a lifelong liberal. . . but I think he'd be a very good President. He's a great organizer (see 2002 Olympics, from train wreck to triumph in one year) and he actually seems like a moderate guy (mandate for purchasing health care in MA? From a Republican?). And he's got experience as chief executive of several large institutions, a hole in Obama's resume that seems, in retrospect, much larger.

Also, from a pragmatic point of view, seems like the only way anything is actually going to get done is under a Republican president. The current Republican legislators are sheep, terrified of the Democrat Wolf and unwilling to break from the safety of the flock. The Dems have more courage, and would support reasonable proposals from a President of the other party.

Course, if current politics proves anything, it's that intelligent moderates are not welcome in Washington.
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mamculuna
Dec. 15th, 2010 10:51 pm (UTC)
The only comforting thought I can suggest (and loyal fans want you comfortable!) is that things looked pretty bleak for Clinton around Christmas 2004, but he managed to pull it out of the spin. So it's possible for Obama, but does he have the will to do it? I would like to give him a week or two with Tyrion as drill sergeant.
arthursdp
Dec. 16th, 2010 05:23 pm (UTC)
Clinton, 2004 ? err... 1994 I presume ?
dizzy34
Dec. 15th, 2010 10:54 pm (UTC)
I typically lean conservative on most issues but Sarah Palin is appalling to me. We don't need another celebrity president but it seems the country craves this crap.
janetlin
Dec. 15th, 2010 10:57 pm (UTC)
Well, there certainly is a lot of "passionate intensity" going around. It's scary, really, the things people will get so hyped up about.
mjferro
Dec. 15th, 2010 10:58 pm (UTC)
Hard pill to swallow...
This is the sort of thing that Democrats always do, but more as a result of pragmatism than weakness, I think. I hate the deal and think borrowing from my kids to give millionaires a tax break is a ridiculous idea. But at the same time, raising taxes on the middle class really could put a dent in our already slow recovery; not to mention the hurt the unemployed will feel once benefits are taken away.

I guess the problem is that there's often no room for pragmatism in politics. What makes sense can look weak and hurt macro politics. I guess the skill is to know when to fight the political fight and when to bend principal and compromise. Did the President make the right decision? I'm not sure, but I do know it was a hard pill to swallow and may place us in a weakened position in the future...even it was the right decision in the hear and now.
glazomaniac
Dec. 15th, 2010 11:01 pm (UTC)
it's an ugly system that puts a person in the position where they can be good or effective, but not both.
maldis
Dec. 15th, 2010 11:04 pm (UTC)
The NY Times would have us believe Obama has maneuvered the Republicans into putting forward one of the more progressive legislative packages of the year.
teatime777
Dec. 15th, 2010 11:15 pm (UTC)
re: politics
slouching toward bethlehem indeed...
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