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Should Math Be Taught in Schools?

((Sad to say, this parody is hardly exaggerated at all. A few of the answers are almost verbatim to the actual answers of the Miss USA contestants to "Should Evolution Be Taught in Schools." Go watch that video on YouTube and see for yourself)).

(((There are days I think I am living in the world of Kornbluth's "Marching Morons." Just look at reality TV, and remember the hit show in his story)))

(((I am vastly pleased that the eventual Miss USA winner, and GAME OF THRONES fan, does "believe in evolution." And presuambly in math as well))).



Jul. 5th, 2011 12:30 pm (UTC)
Actually it does not. Evolution indisputably happens small scale over time. Proven. No doubt. Big check in the yes box. Can one animal transform into another animal over time? Still not proven. The fossil chain has not yet connected humans to apes, and in my opinion never will. We are similar in our DNA, yes, but the differences are still vast.

Hence: Evolution, yes. Creation (in my opinion), yes. Both can be believed simultaneously.
Anthony Rosa
Jul. 5th, 2011 10:50 pm (UTC)
Of course you'd be skeptical that the fossil chain will connect humans to apes in the future when you ignore that it already does.

We don't even need any fossils to know the connection. Genetics is sufficient, fossils are just icing on the cake. In any case, do I need to link you to the sheer number of transitional fossils that we have? (Ignoring the elephant in the room that ALL fossils are transitional, but still.) Human evolution is rather well documented. It helps that it was so recent in geological terms.

"Can animals change into another animal over time?" Absolutely. Look at ring species to see precisely how this can come about. Seriously, look them up.

I mean, we can actually see these sorts of things with our own eyes. The only way you can ignore them and say it "isn't proven," at least by any rational level of proof, is if you refuse to look.
Jul. 5th, 2011 11:39 pm (UTC)
This is utterly wrong.
I'm sorry, but your statement shows that you have no understanding of the science of evolution. The fossil record will never show that humans evolved from apes because they did not! This is just one of the lies that is used to brainwash the religious and the simple.

In fact, there is not one unique species currently in existence that evolved from a contemporary. Do you not understand that we are talking about changes occurring over millions of years? Many current species though, have evolved from common ancestors, such as humans and chimpanzees which share 96% of their DNA. Can you really argue relatedness with a 4% variation? Interesting note: human males and females have a 1% variation that accounts for the difference between the sexes.

If you set all of your same sex ancestors in a row from yourself all the way back to the spot where humans and chimpanzees diverged, you could pick any sequence of fifty anywhere on the line and not be able to point to any differences that would signal a new species. Changes are gradual, and only breed through a population if they provide some reproductive (survival) advantage. This is why the very idea of a "fossil chain" as you put it, showing apes becoming humans is ludicrous.

Please, do yourself a favor and read a book or two about evolution that has been written by actual scientists, not ID apologists like Michael Behe. Our world is a far more wonderful and amazing place than small books like the bible and the koran would have you believe.
Jul. 6th, 2011 06:21 pm (UTC)
A little math
It feels good to throw around numbers like 4% and 1% to show how slim the differences are, but if you take only the first chromosome (220 million base pairs of DNA), 4% would be 8,800,000 possibilities. 1% would be only 2,200,000. Even one percent is a huge number. And that is only taking into account the first chromosome. Considering all 23, there more than 3 billion base pairs, making 4% a whopping 120 million pairs. Considering a single change in the DNA results in mutation,and since most of those mutations are indiscernible, the differences between myself and a female human seem incredible indeed and between myself and an ape as unfathomable.


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