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NFL Draft, Day 3

The Giants draft is looking very strong. No spectacular moves, but solid players who will make solid contributions. Grabbing Nassib in round four to back up Eli and groom as his successor was a great move.

The Jets draft... two defensive players in round one look okay, but considering how high they were taken, you had to hope for more. Neither one looks like a game-changer. And taking Geno Smith will set back the club years. Sanchez is likely to be released now, which means we are starting all over, and with a much iffier prospect than Mark was when he was first drafted,



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Keith Donnelly
Apr. 29th, 2013 02:15 pm (UTC)
Well at least they finally ended qyburn's Tebow experiment....Is there any chance the tales of dunk and egg will be released as a collected e-book, thanks.
Apr. 29th, 2013 02:31 pm (UTC)
Jets QB
Well, Sanchez didn't get released, but another QB did... and GRRM does a little dance, perhaps?
Apr. 29th, 2013 03:02 pm (UTC)
Obligatory Geno Smith defense from a Mountaineer fan...

As an avid WVU fan I can honestly say drafting Geno is a risk. (Although I'm not sure why he's an iffier prospect than Sanchez was when he was drafted.) Geno was inconsistent and infuriating at times. There were also games when he was absolutely brilliant. The good thing about Geno is there isn't a throw he can't make. He's big, athletic, and has better arm strength than anyone on the JETS roster. Biggest problem for Geno in NY is he won't have weapons like Tavon around him (to say nothing of the problems in the JETS front office.) I know its a big if, but if they can work on calming him down I think he has the athleticism and field vision to make a franchise QB. I believe he'll certainly do better than Sanchez has the past two seasons.
Apr. 29th, 2013 03:26 pm (UTC)
fellow giant and jet fan
I live outside DC. So I have no one to talk Jet/Giant football with. Just the whacko RG3 fans. Who think the Redskins will win the superbowl this year.

So bear with my post.

Not sure what they will do at Linebacker. They usually ignore this. Right now, they are down 2 linebackers from last year and Kiwanuka needs to move to DE (where he is better). This is a very weak group even by Giants standards. Rivers has talent but can't stay on the field. Who knows about the guy they got from the cowboys.

Secondary: Huh? This group was awful last year. Amukamarra was pretty good, but missed alot of games. What are the odds that an older player like Webster rebounds from a year where he was about the worst corner in the NFL? Can Terrell Thomas stay on the field and even play with that knee? Kenny Phillips was there best safety (in the 7 games when he was healthy) and he is gone. Antrelle Rolle is good in run support, but can't cover anyone. I am also wondering if Jayron Hosley was a bust.

The Giant defense gave up 7000 yards last year... You can't cross your fingers and just hope for sacks. You have to cover.

Pugh: Dunno. Short Arms? Who knows what that means. Can't be hard to be better than Diehl who is garbage. Reese has a good track record of hitting home runs in the first round.

DT in 2nd Round: Are they giving up on Marvin Austin? Remember when he was supposed to be a steal. He can't stay healthy. Giants did have alot of trouble with DT depth so the 3 guys in the rotation were exhausted in the 2nd half. My guess is they want more guys in the rotation.

DE in 3rd Round: Probably a project and won't get on the field this year unless there are alot of injuries.

Nassib: Hopefully he never takes the field. I think this was a 'Peyton never got hurt until he did'. If so, he will leave via Free Agency in 4 years. Not sure I like this. David Carr is a quality backup and knows the system. This year they have to carry 3 QBs. I don't think they can afford to cut far. That means 1 less roster spot.

Rest of the draft: Reese is hit and miss late in the draft. Mainly miss.

Jets: They are clearly not drafting for this year. They know they will suck. Plus they have 12m in cap space from Revis and almost 13m going to Sanchez.

1st Round CB: Revis is a generational corner. There is no 'replacement for Revis'. An all pro is not a replacement for Revis, but if he is good. Its a good pick.

1st Round DT: This is clearly a pick for down the road. There line is getting old. Dunno. Strikes me as more of a 4-3 Tackle. Your not going to get pressure as a NT. So maybe they see him as a 3-4 End? Or maybe they will go 4-3 in some situations?

Geno: If he is good. Good pick. I have no idea if he will be good. I'm ok with a 2nd round pick and giving up a 6th to hope he is good. This is a QB league and Sanchez has to go.

Rest of the Draft: I have no idea. These are just names on the page. So I hope some are good.

Matthew Cooley
Apr. 29th, 2013 03:31 pm (UTC)
Obviously the Jets big needs were offensive weapons and probably a linebacker able to rush the passer, but at 9th and 13th the value just wasn't there with Tavon Austin off the board. This was not a strong WR class. You could make a case for Tyler Eifert (ND TE), but I'd still rather have Milliner and Richardson.

Sanchez is in his final year one way or another, and with the drafts top rated QB shockingly available in the 2nd round, they HAD to take him.

My only real beef with the Jets is taking Richardson over Star Lotulelei, but its a minor complaint, and I will be happy to be proven wrong on that.
Apr. 29th, 2013 03:42 pm (UTC)
Tim Tebow
Well, the Jets release Tebow today, so they seemed to be looking at someone like Geno Smith as the future. I don't know if it will work out.
Jay M Williams
Apr. 29th, 2013 03:48 pm (UTC)
Draft Analysis
George I respect your Football opinions almost as much as your writing but am scratching my head on your draft analysis this year. The Giants draft seems ok. Moore and Nassib (watched him live)are strong picks for where they got them) but Hankins isn't the right DT for an Eastern Conference full of speedy qbs. The Jets might've even done a little better this year. Milliner will be a stud. Geno's pass completion % (usually the best predictor of pro success) is high enough that mid/late second round seems like a small price. Thanks for taking Richardson though, it let Sharrif Floyd fall to the purple! If there is anything to celebrate this year it might be the Dallas Cowboys abysmal draft. The biggest quandary, Chance Warmack somehow fell to 10th as the best player at his job (imho).
Apr. 29th, 2013 04:14 pm (UTC)
Re: Draft Analysis
The Giants were slashed repeatedly by the run last year. Hankins will give them a huge run-stopper in the middle, which is just what they need. He looks to be a Tony Siragusa/ Kris Jenkins type. The Giants draft was not glamorous, but they seem to have gotten good, soldi players.

Milliner may or may not be a stud, but he's got an impossible task: replacing Revis. If Revis comes back all the way, he is on his way to a Hall of Fame career, and will go down as one of the best CBs in NFL history, someone to rank with Dion Sanders and Darrell Green. Even if Milliner turns out to be a Pro Bowl player, that's a big step down.
Jay M Williams
Apr. 29th, 2013 07:53 pm (UTC)
seRe: Draft Analysis
Hard to argue with that. I've met Jim Carter a few times. Great guy, awesome player, never forgiven by the fans for beating out the aging Ray Nitchke (sp?) in Green Bay. Hopefully Jets fans will judge Milliner for what he is......but we know how likely that is. I cried with you when they parted ways with Revis. My pops lost a superbowl but gained a friendship with Namath so I've always kept one eye on those green guys to the East. My best advice to the Jets, convince those dirty Pats, that the guy in Curtis Martin's number and green uniform is really him, Ghost of Renly style! Thanks for the response.
Jay M Williams
May. 2nd, 2013 06:01 am (UTC)
Re: Draft Analysis
Good points. Stopping the run is a big part of the Vikings identity and used to be pretty important in the league....still is but not like before.
May. 1st, 2013 11:01 am (UTC)
Re: Draft Analysis
Moore was a pretty good defensive end for A&M and an excellent pass-rusher in the SEC. His perfomance against DJ Fluker was a pretty good one, considering Fluker admitted he was getting a lot of "no-holds".

He had a bit of an attitude problem, and that's a significant reason why the coaches didn't "endorse him".

Great Defensive Player for A&M and one that was expected to fill Von Miller's shoes, didn't live up to Von's level but certainly an outstanding player for A&M.
Apr. 30th, 2013 02:21 am (UTC)
NFL draft and Geno Smith
Dear George, we are going to have to disagree on Geno Smith. I am a die-hard WVU fan. He is an amazing player. I watch the 2012 Orange Bowl DVD where a young Geno Smith led out team to defeat Clemson in a major upset just for fun (between episodes of GoT and re-reads of ASOIAF). There are things that are not generally known by the public about some of the issues with WVU's team this year that reflected on Geno, though not his fault, but the Jets have secured one of the hardest working, most determined players available. The release of Tim Tebow today should begin to clear up some questions about the Jets' intentions, but Geno will play his heart out and give his full attention to this opportunity. Give him a chance, please!

In the meantime, still waiting to hear from you on my script proposition and my series thoughts for a Civil War drama based on Mosby's Men. Will fly to Sante Fe anytime.

Edited at 2013-04-30 02:35 am (UTC)
Apr. 30th, 2013 06:41 am (UTC)

Any interest in sounding off on the Jet's draft as well as Idzik's recent performance on NFL AM? My sister is the host of the show and as a long time fan of your books I'd love to see you on there.
Nachop Pikacho
May. 5th, 2013 04:44 am (UTC)
NY sux, Dallas Cowboys for ever...
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