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In the comments section to the post immediately below, someone asked about voting for this year's Hugo Awards.  Alas, Hugo voting closed some time ago... for the 2013 awards, at least.

You can still cast your vote at LoneStarCon, however... not for the Hugo Awards, but for site selection.

It's the fans who nominate and vote for the Hugos, and the fans who decide where the world science fiction convention will be held. Unlike Dragoncon (always in Atlanta), Comicon (always in San Diego), or other megacons of their ilk, worldcon moves to a different city every year, just as it has since its founding in the 1930s.  Cities wishing to host worldcon must put together a concom, find a suitable site and hotels, and bid for the rights to hold the con.  Bidding, like American presidential elections, sometimes seems to go on forever, but the actual site selection ballot takes place two years in advance.

At this year's San Antonio worldcon, LoneStarCon 3, fans will decide where the worldcon goes for 2015.

(The site of the 2014 worldcon was determined at Chicon 7, last year's worldcon.  The winner was London, England).

There are three contenders for 2015: Spokane, Washington; Orlando, Florida; and Helsinki, Finland.  All three will be campaigning vigorously and throwing parties at Texas, I'm sure, selling pre-supporting memberships, and bending the ears of everyone who cares to hear about their wonderful cities, amazing facilities, and experienced committees.  So who to choose?

As it happens, I've been to all three cities.  Back in the mid 90s, I was GOH at a small regional con in Spokane.  Nice fans.  The city has its charms, and the surrounding countryside was lovely.   It's a small city, though, and it was a small friendly low-key con, which makes me wonder if the committee is ready to tackle something as large and contentious and complex as worldcon.

Orlando hosted the worldcon once before -- MagiCon in 1992 -- and was supposed to be the site once even earlier -- SunCon in 1977.  But SunCon was a disaster, had to move to Miami Beach after the fans voted for Orlando, and still ranks as one of the worst worldcons ever.  MagiCon was much better... but hot, swelteringly hot.  I have fond memories of the Peabody Hotel, but the new Orlando bid isn't using the Peabody, instead they will actually be inside Disney World, using Disney facilities.  I like visiting Disney parks from time to time, and I love attending worldcon, but that does not mean I want to mix the two.  The Orlando convention set-up has some undeniable advantages... I love the idea of having all of worldcon under a single roof, without elevators... but if you've ever been to Disney World or Disneyland, you probably know that there will be drawbacks as well.  Under the Mouse's roof, the Mouse's rules apply.  And what with global warming and all, Orlando in 2015 will probably be even hotter than Orlando in 1992.  Just thinking about it makes me want to turn the air conditioner up to "ARCTIC BLAST."

Fortunately, I think there's one choice for 2015 that stands head and shoulders above the other two:

No, no, no, NOT England.  England is next year.  I'm talking FINLAND!  Helsinki!

Singing, dancing, fish-slapping, reindeer, lingonberries...

Well, no, not really.  But Parris and I were guests at Finncon just a few years ago, and we had a great time.  Helsinki is a great, lively, historic city, and the Finnish fans are terrific... warm and friendly and hospitable.  They all speak English, by the way.  Every Finn we met spoke English.  So no one need worry about getting lost in a country where you cannot understand the language.  You can eat reindeer and lingonberries if you have a yen... but there's plenty of other types of food for those who'd rather not.  Saunas are omnipresent... but not compulsory, if you are the shy sort who would rather not take off your clothes around other people.  Helsinki's not quite north enough for a midnight sun, but we got a ten-oclock-at-night sun, and that was pretty cool too.   Hell, you could even find good pizza.  (I prefer never to go anywhere where you cannot find good pizza).

Even more than the charms of the city, however, it was the competence and experience of the committee that impressed me.  We have had too many badly-run worldcons in recent years (need I mention Montreal, anyone?).   The Finncon we attended was huge, drawing something like 30,000 people to Helsinki as I recall.  That's six times as large as any worldcon since the 80s, yet the con ran smoothly start to finish, and everyone seemed to have a great time.  I have no doubt that a Helsinki worldcon would be well run as well... and I know the Finnish fans would love to show your their city, their castles, the herds of reindeer wandering the streets.   Oh, there's vodka too.  And saunas.  Did I mention the saunas?

But seriously... if you'd like to know more about the Finnish bid, check out their website here:  http://www.helsinkiin2015.org/

Anyway, those of you who will be attending LoneSTarCon should be sure to visit the site selection booths, check out the literature for the competing bid, then sign up for 2015 and cast your ballot.

Me, I'll be voting for Helsinki... to put the "world" back in worldcon.

(And for KANSAS CITY IN 2016 as well, but that vote is next year, in London).


Alas, Helsinki did not win the rights to host the 2015 worldcon.  The Finns threw the best parties and had the most first place votes, but after leading on all the early ballots, they lost out in the end when Orlando was finally eliminated, and their votes swung en masse to Spokane.  The vagaries of the Australian ballot.

The Finns will rise again, I hope.  But it's Spokane in 2015.

(Future bids announced or rumored at the con included New Orleans, Washington DC, and Dublin.  I like the sound of all of those.



Aug. 22nd, 2013 10:04 pm (UTC)
Re: Where to Worldcon
You don't surrender to the bully because he's bigger than you are.

I can't control DragonCon's schedule, only my own. I will never attend another DragonCon so long as it remains on Labor Day weekend. I doubt that I'll be missed, with those 50,000 other people, but so be it. Sometimes you have to take a stand.
Aug. 23rd, 2013 04:00 pm (UTC)
Re: Where to Worldcon
Mr. Martin:

You would always be missed and easily make up for 20K attendees (Paris making up for the other 30K).
(You have many fans who attend DragonCon and the vast majority have no idea about the dispute between the Cons and wonder why you don't come.)

That D-Con should not have moved to Labor Day without working this out with WorldCon, I accept. (I have no idea if someone was "messing with WorldCon" or what "unwritten rules" may have been in place or any of the backstory - I am suggesting we need to get beyond this.) Given that D-Con needs to book 5 large Atlanta hotels and a huge convention area, I'm not sure that it can move even if it would. (Not to mention clearing the parade route and extra police hours that need lots of advance notice.) Its size has given it lead feet.

It worries me that since the move (many years ago), DragonCon has gotten much bigger (Atlanta Journel says 57K last year) while WorldCon seems to have gotten smaller (not sure of exact figures for WCon). It seems the fans have voted with their feet (however unfairly). I wish this was not so and lack of attendence had driven D-Con back to July. But this did not happen and I don't think the genie can be gotten back into the bottle. I do not want WorldCon to do a Gladriel and dimnish and go into the West. Great myth making but lousy convention planning.

WorldCon has advantages (not the least of all you) such as flexability. It moves around and does not even always use Labor Day. It can be Apple to D-Con's IBM.

Labor Day has the further disadvantge for we parents that if any travel is involved we have to pull the kids out of school - which we did for Chi-Con though we had later to show pictures of them with the shuttle astronaunt to justify it. For many reasons its not even an ideal Con weekend.

I'm not on the D-Con or the WorldCon side but try to stay on the Fan side. We would like to get this schedule confict resolved for the good of the genre (last year WorldCon panels had big screens with hook ups to D-Con panels so I had assumed some cooperation was taking place).

I wish it was as simple as D-Con "get you to July" but I don't think this is physically possible anymore.

Sometimes even bullies grow up and realize their mistakes - can't get in a time machine to fix but can at least make amends. D-Con should help/promote in everyway possible a time shift for WorldCon (selling discouted tickets at D-con with D-con paying the difference would be a start.)

When great powers war villagers get caught in the middle. Right now its the fans in the middle who would like to support both that are frustrated by an old dispute. We appeal to all the powers that be to find a solution that recognizes the realities of 2013 and is best for the genre and the fans.

Devoted (pre HBO) fans:

Tom and Catherine


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