George R.R. Martin (grrm) wrote,
George R.R. Martin

Dinosaurs, Dinosaurs

So, who likes dinosaurs?

What, all of you?  Well, of course.  I mean, who doesn't like dinosaurs!

I fell in love with them as a kid, on my first visit to the Museum of Natural History in New York City.  I had a great collection of toy dinosaurs back then (long since lost, alas -- unlike my spacemen, who I hung onto).  I used to make them fight my toy knights.   I never thought to write up those adventures, however (I did write up stories about the space pirates, however -- also lost, alack alas).

My friend Vic Milan was smarter.  His new novel, THE DINOSAUR LORDS, will be out next June.  First of a trilogy.  It's got dinosaurs, and it's got knights.  What more can you ask?  (And why the hell didn't I think of it first??)  For those of you who don't know him, Victor Milan has been one of my Wild Cards mainstays since the very beginning, back in 1987, the creator of Cap'n Trips, the Harlem Hammer, Mackie Messer. and more.   THE DINOSAUR LORDS is his best book yet... and damn, but Tor gave him a KICKASS cover:


Be sure and check out DINOSAUR LORDS when it hits the shelves in June... or better yet, pre-order.

And speaking of dinosaurs, a couple of other friends also have a cool dinosaur Kickstarter going.  Tess Kissinger and Bob Walters , old friends from Philadelphia, have a great dinosaur book out as well.


Bob Walters has been one of the world's leading dinosaur artists for decades, and the book is full of his gorgeous art.

(No knights, though).

And he and Tess have a new dream as well:  THE DINOSAUR CHANNEL.

But I will let them tell you all about it themselves, on their Kickstarter page:

Cool cause, and some cool incentives as well.  Check it out.
Tags: cool stuff, cover art, friends, publishing

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That Dinosaur Lords cover art is amazing. Hopefully this is one of those times when it's ok to judge a book by its cover.
THE DINOSAUR CHANNEL would be awesome!! There was a dinosaur show on a few years ago, Terra Nova... it got cancelled after one season, unfortunately. It was one of the rare shows that was tame enough violence-wise that it was okay for the kids, but had enough of a story to it that my husband and I didn't mind watching. Very few shows fit that bill.

My parents came across a cow skull somehow, and buried it in the sand box at their cabin, for my dinosaur-obsessed niece. She is convinced she unearthed a real dinosaur!
Thanks for advice.

Knights and dinosaurs sounds marvelous. Hopefully, they will sell it on internet as well - or I'll have to wait at least a year more to get it here.

Oh, and if you'll ever decide to visit Moscow, have it in mind - we have really cool Paleonthology museum here. With lots of dinosaurs and other ancient creatures.
This is awesome! Can't go wrong with dinosaurs. I used to play with them too, but instead I had them fight Barbie. 😝
Now I have to set fire to the dinosaurs in medieval England novel I've been working on for five years.
No you don't. If you truly didn't know such a thing existed, then it's fine. Don't give up, cause your story might actually end up being much better than the one George posted. Keep writing mate!

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If not knights and dinosaurs, what about cowboys and dinosaurs?

2000AD had a comic called Flesh in the late 70, created by Pat Mills, about future cowboys who have trouble with dinosaurs (million years later Judge Dredd would meet some cloned versions).

Also strange that another writer mentions his love for dinosaurs on his blog just now. Philip Reeve (Mortal Engines) just mention some of the same:

I remember dinosaurs making an impact on me as well when I was a child and got a small book about them. But they are not the only prehistoric animals that are fascinating.

In the late Devonian, we had primitive amphibians like Acanthostega and Ichthyostega which were more like fish with limbs and a neck rather than real tetrapods.

After the late Devonian extinction, the only surviving amphibians were those who were terrestrial as adults. Later forms that spent most or all of their time as adults in the water would be secondary aquatic.

The first part of the Carboniferous was really the age of the amphibians. Unlike today's forms, many were huge with massive and heavy ossified skeletons.

Judging by the fossils, there were three dominating groups of amphibians (in addition to some smaller, more primitive and less successful groups):

Reptiliomorpha (Diadectomorpha and the ancestors to today's reptiles, birds and mammals)

Lepospondyli. For the most part smaller forms.

Temnospondyls. A very diverse group with the largest amphibians that has ever lived.

The temnospondyls, the reptiles and the ancestors to present day amphibians were the only terrestrial vertebrates that survived the massive Permian extinction 250 million years ago.
My previous post was a little too long, so I post the remaining part here:

During the Carboniferous period, the first reptiles evolved, and would become the dominating vertebrates on land in the Permian period. Large terrestrial amphibians would gradually be replaced by large reptiles. For the most part, only smaller and/or aquatic forms survived.

The synopsids, the mammal like reptiles, were the dominating animals during the Permian, with gorgonopsids, dicynodonts and Dimetrodon as famous examples. The large plant eating pareiasaurs were possibly the only successful anapsids.

When the world recovered after the Permian disaster in the Triassic, the first dinosaurs evolved. But they were still not a dominating force in the ecosystems. There were still mammal like reptiles, but no longer that important. There were still temnospondyls, now aquatic with a more simplified spine, weaker legs and skeleton and often with larval traits as adults, but still present and many would grow to several meters in length.
During this period the fascinating plant eating rhynchosaurs evolved, as did the marine reptiles like the ancestors of ichthyosaurs and plesiosaurs, and later the first flying reptiles. But the most successful Triassic animals turned out to be the pseudosuchians, relatives to the modern crocodiles and alligators. The pseudosuchians outnumbered the dinosaurs in sizes, forms and species.

Then there was a new extinction incident at the end of Triassic, killing the pseudosuchians and many other forms. The surviving dinosaurs could finally become the rulers of the earth. The stereospondyls (aquatic temnospondyls) were losing the battle to aquatic reptiles like the ancestors to the modern day crocodiles, but a few species were able to hold on for many million years in protected areas before they finally went extinct with the Antarctic Koolasuchus from the Early Cretaceous as their last known member.
(Still, even if the dominating herbivores and carnivores were dinosaurs, paleontologist Darren Naish once mentioned that there is a possibility that giant terrestrial crocodiles were the top predators in certain parts of the world during the era of the dinosaurs.)

And after the Jurassic, there was the Cretaceous, where dinosaurs really started to increase in size and evolve new forms.

Who knows what new evolutionary direction they could have taken had it not been for the great dying 65 million years ago.

After the mass extinction at the end of Cretaceous. the dinosaurs and many other groups died out. But weirdly enough, certain animals that are gone today survived into the Cenozoic era. The Choristodera, with many forms that looked like crocodiles and had a similar size and lifestyle, were neither crocodiles or lizards. They died out about 20 million years ago after having existed for 200 million years. And we almost lost the Tuatara, but luckily it still survives on some isolated islands.
Then we have the order of primitive mammals known as multituberculates. After an existence stretched over more than 100 million years, they disappeared 35 million years ago.
And while we today have three surviving orders of amphibians; the frogs, salamanders and caecilians, there were a fourth order, the Allocaudata which looked a bit like salamanders with a scaly skin, went extinct just 2.5 million years ago. Seems like a mass extinction or human influence is not always required to wipe out a group of animals. One can only hope the surviving major groups will still be around for a long time yet.

The Dinosaur Lords sound great. Looking forward to it.
I will preorder this, thanks. You have yet to steer me wrong sir!
Whoa, that cover art is amazing! Putting that on my list of things to read.
Love the cover art on Dino Lords. Very nice.
That cover looks terrific.

It looks like the coming year will be the [new] epoch of the riding dinosaurs genre, Iron Sky 2 has a different twist to the concept (skip to 2:00 in the trailer if you are curious)
Does anyone know who did the cover art for The Dinosaur Lords? It looks like Bill Sienkiewitz from the X-Men and New Mutants comics books.
That book cover is amazing. Also, the lizards with scythes residing in Sothoryos are totally Velociraptorts, right?
That's what I get for not writing my "fantasy with dinosaurs" idea when I first had it.

Procrastinators never win! Time to ditch this idea. ha

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