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Podcast from Greywater

A million years ago when dinosaurs roamed the earth and I looked more or less like the guy in the picture there, (1972, actually), I took a train down from Chicago, where I was living and working at the time, to Kansas City. There, at the very first KC science fiction convention, MidAmericaCon (not to be confused with the later worldcon, MidAmericon), I met Howard Waldrop. H'ard and I had been corresponding for almost a decade, since the fall of 1963, when I bought a copy of BRAVE AND BOLD #28 from him for a quarter. But he lived in Texas, and I lived in New Jersey, and never the twain had met.

Till KC.

We were both fledgling sf writers at the time, each of us with a few short story sales under our belt. When we met, we did what fledgling writers often did in those days: we decided to write a story together. We actually left the Playboy Club atop the con hotel to begin it. (Probably just as well. Beers were real expensive up there, I recall -- a whole quarter).

We only wrote a few pages at the con, but we kept at it afterwards, sending the manuscript back and forth, until it was done. "Men of Greywater Station," we called it. Pretty much everybody in the field rejected it until it finally got to the lowest paying magazine, where it was purchased and, finally, published. The readers seemed to like it well enough.

Howard and I remain close friends to this day, but we never collaborated again. Our styles were just too different. But it was fun doing it once.

And now, all these years later, it's been done as a podcast by Starship Sofa:

http://www.starshipsofa.com/blog/2015/06/03/starshipsofa-no-389-george-r-r-martin/

Check it out for yourself. It's free, and I thought they did a nice job.

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marick22
Jun. 14th, 2015 02:36 am (UTC)
co-authoring
I've always wondered how co-authoring a story went for the writers involved -- I mean, who gets credit where, and so on. For example, in your co-authored novel "Windhaven", Wikipedia (what a source!) implies Lisa Tuttle mostly wrote the book, but the characterisations, descriptions, and dialogue sound, to me, as though you mostly wrote it, based on everything else I've read of yours (which is pretty much everything you've published). Plus, there are place names in the book used later in ASOIAF, such as the Iron Islands and the Eyrie, which I associate entirely with 'you'... and if Tuttle did help you come up with these, she today gets absolutely no credit at all for the names! I write [obviously unpublished] fiction of my own, and I can't imagine sharing any of it with another writer, not even one single line. And so I can't see a writing collaboration as being anything more than an experiment, something to *do* at a specific time, rather than something a writer might invest a part of their soul in... I imagine exchanging manuscripts, like you say, and then when my turn comes up, there I am, cringing at a turn the story has taken, and maybe even losing the desire to continue writing... Then again, I'm incredibly picky. So.
I just wonder, is all.
(Nice mustard turtleneck, by the way!)
grrm
Jun. 14th, 2015 07:13 pm (UTC)
Re: co-authoring
Every collaboration is different.

Lisa and I wrote the WINDHAVEN stories together. That was as complete a collaboration as I have ever done. We split the first drafts equally, but she revised my first drafts, and I revised all of her first drafts.

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