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Hugo Voting Continues

With the Puppy Wars heating up again -- not that they have ever really cooled down -- this seems an opportune moment to remind all and sundry that there is still plenty of time left to join Sasquan and cast your ballot for this year's Hugo awards.

With the electronic ballot, once you have a membership number and a PIN, you can go and post some preferences and votes now, then return a day later, or a week later, or a month later, and change them, or add some more rankings. Your vote does not get counted until balloting closes.

The ballot is here: http://sasquan.org/hugo-awards/voting/

If you have not voted the Hugo Awards before, please note that it is an "Australian ballot," a preferential system whereby one ranks the nominees. You don't just vote for one. You can rank NO AWARD as if it were any other finalist; ahead of some nominees, behind others.

(Which is the way I believe one should use NO AWARD. As I have stated previously, I am opposed to the nuclear option of just blindly voting NO AWARD in every category).

Of course, you need to be a member to vote. Supporting Memberships will cost you $40. You can sign up to buy one at https://sasquan.swoc.us/sasquan/reg.php

In addition to voting privileges, a Supporting Membership will get you the convention's program book (usually a handsome item, though it varies from year to year) and other publications.

You can also sign up as an ATTENDING member and actually attend the convention, which is the course I strongly recommend for those who have the time and the money. Cons are fun, especially worldcon; that's what they are all about. Reading, panel discussions, the art show, the dealers' room, the masquerade, filksinging... all sorts of great stuff goes on. Something for all tastes. And EVERYONE is welcome, despite what you have heard. (Just don't be an asshole. Assholes get welcomed too, but the welcome wears out more quickly).

Both supporting and attending members get an electronic "Hugo packet" that will enable you to read many of the works nominated for this year's rockets. You should do that, no matter what side of the Puppy Wars you are on; we want informed voters. Yes, sadly, IMNSHO this is the weakest Hugo ballot in recent memory, thanks to the Puppy slates... but there's still some damn strong work there, especially in Novel and Dramatic Presentation. And of course it is possible that your own tastes may differ from mine.

So join, read, vote. And fifty years from now, when your fannish grandchildren ask you, "Say, gramps, what did you do in the Great Hugo War?" you'll have an answer for them.


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Jun. 14th, 2015 01:17 am (UTC)
Mr. Martin, I truly hope that you have not fallen into the pit of despair and futility that is the social justice war. On both sides, the vocal minorities reign supreme with their straw man arguments and absolutist beliefs. The only way to win is not to play. I hate the thought of a brilliant mind such as yours being tormented the way mine has. You're too important.
Jun. 14th, 2015 01:28 am (UTC)
Say, gramps, what did you do in the Great Hugo War?
Well... I shoveled shit in Louisiana.
Jun. 14th, 2015 01:51 am (UTC)
I'm enjoying my first time voting for the Hugos, and am doing my best to give everyone fair consideration. The Best Novel category is solid, if not up to the stellar years of say 2000, 2001 or 2012 (years packed with some of my favorite recent books). The short story categories are pretty thin though, and related work is absolutely dire - that's where the puppies did their most rabid damage. My standard for voting something above 'no award' is if I rank it with my favorite stories from recent anthologies like Dangerous Women. Sadly, not many of the nominated short works have risen to that standard.
Jun. 14th, 2015 03:29 am (UTC)
Registration also allows you to vote for the location of a future Worldcon, correct?
Jun. 14th, 2015 07:02 pm (UTC)
Yes... and the contest for 2017 is the first four-way race in decades, with Helsinki, Washington DC, Montreal, and Japan all contending.
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Helsinki - realorian - Jun. 16th, 2015 01:54 am (UTC) - Expand
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Frank Probst
Jun. 14th, 2015 04:12 am (UTC)
Dramatic Presentation
As much as I loved The Mountain and the Viper, I ranked it #2, behind the season finale of Orphan Black, which was one of the best single episodes of a series that I've seen in years. Unfortunately, you really have to watch Orphan Black from the very beginning to appreciate the episode, so I really doubt it'll win. If you haven't seen the show, watch the first episode of Season 1. If you like it, keep watching. If you don't like episode 1, you're probably not going to like the series. Be warned, though: This is a show that can pull you into a binge-watch, so I wouldn't start it at 10 PM on a work night.
Jun. 15th, 2015 08:57 pm (UTC)
Re: Dramatic Presentation
Funny; I love love love Orphan Black, but the first couple of episodes didn't do anything for me. I stuck with it because a) I'm stubborn and b) I trusted people with similar taste, and I'm glad I did because it's hands down one of my favorite shows. But I didn't care for episode 1 very much at all.

And to bring this back to the theme of awards, Tatiana Maslany has been robbed. If anyone deserves an Emmy nod, she does.
Jun. 14th, 2015 04:59 am (UTC)
George, what is your favorite fantasy/sci-fi novel that has won absolutely no awards or accolades whatsoever?
Jun. 14th, 2015 07:04 pm (UTC)
Hard to say. No award is perfect, so inevitably good work gets overlooked.

STRANGERS by Gardner Dozois might be one possibility.
Jun. 14th, 2015 02:02 pm (UTC)
Hugo membership
I can't thank you enough for this link to become a member. I feel a part of the mix now. Brilliant of you to recommend it to us. Cheers.

Edited at 2015-06-14 02:03 pm (UTC)
Jun. 14th, 2015 02:03 pm (UTC)
nauseating puppies
I'm so confused by the vast material circulating out there on the net. I earnestly try to read whatever I can and wrap my brain around the massive network of SFF contestants to a long time established noble faire of passionate and talented writers, readers and awards. I'm seeking some info that will simplify the whole thing in my own language so I can understand more than the basic amount I do which is that a group of bigoted misogynist anti social bullies saw an opportunity to "take control" (something like the stories they probably write) and leave a lot of cool people who try to live their lives in a "fair" manner, have "respect" for everyone and write their stories with the same theme, in the dust.
I loathe me a bully! I get worked up when I see a bully.

Honestly, just yesterday I STARTED to sign up to be a Hugo voter, after reading some disturbing blog posts and articles, I felt sick when I saw John C Wright and Vox Day on so many Ballots and decided NOT to even participate. Though I've read some of the books on the ballot, not enough so, I suck. I know. I want to HELP my team (your team George), I just feel like I'm alone here on the Internet. Normally I'm a fairly independent thinker but for this, I need a specific community where I can ask some questions, dumb as they may be and I need some direction, otherwise I'm not comfortable by myself jumping on a boat heading out to Sea. But imho, that's the difference between people like "us" and "others" who have no qualms gathering-up a group of people (their buddies) to pretend they care about SFF.
Just looking at John C Wright's face on Wikipedia makes me nauseated, let alone reading his vile comments about gay people.

Needless to say, I'm conflicted about partaking in the Hugo voting. I don't want to see them win ANYTHING, I'm sorry. I want to be honest. But on the other hand, I find this whole thing sickening. Especially that they call themselves "puppies", sad, rabid, happy or stupid, I don't care, they did that with clever and deceptive design and it's as galling as they intended.
what to do?

These are the titles of posts I've been reading:
~ most enlightening:
I Stand By Irene Gallo- Chuck Wendig
*and then these too:
The Revolution of Self-Righteous Dickery will Not Be Moderated
How Gamergate Radicals Seized Sci-Fi's Most Prestigious Awards
Hijacking the Hugo Awards Won't Stifle Diversity in Science Fiction
And Now For Something Completely Distempered 6/9

Edited at 2015-06-14 02:08 pm (UTC)
Jun. 14th, 2015 07:07 pm (UTC)
Re: nauseating puppies
Yes, this whole controversy is sickening, I agree.

But standing on the sidelines will not help anything.

If the membership fee is not a burden (I would never want anyone who can't afford it to spend rent or food money on a Hugo vote), join, read the stories, and vote for what you like best. There's some good stuff there, along with the crap.

Let your voice be heard.
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Re: nauseating puppies - lilredheadedgrl - Jun. 15th, 2015 05:30 pm (UTC) - Expand
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Jun. 14th, 2015 02:48 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the Inspiration!
I'm now working on reading my 4th novel nomination ("The Dark Between The Stars", Jim Butcher's will finish my novel reads), and I'm almost done with Novellas and Graphic Novels (a category with a very strong set of noms, IMHO).

However, all of this was spurred by your posts. I really appreciate you highlighting the issue of the Puppies and the Hugos, as it's led me to read more recent sci-fi/fantasy than usual. And, two books from now, I'll be able to confidently say which of the 5 I think was most deserving!

For editing, I was going to rank them based on the works they oversaw. As a writer, can you suggest anything else I should look for from an editor?

As always, thanks for your time and enthusiasm for the genres!

Jun. 14th, 2015 07:08 pm (UTC)
Re: Thanks for the Inspiration!
For editors, the proof has to be the pudding: the quality of the work they edited. Unless you were looking over their shoulders during the editing process, there is no way to tell how much the editor actually did... but you know the end result.
Re: Thanks for the Inspiration! - travelingjt - Jun. 14th, 2015 09:49 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Thanks for the Inspiration! - grrm - Jun. 14th, 2015 11:49 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Thanks for the Inspiration! - Bob Jenson - Jun. 15th, 2015 05:38 am (UTC) - Expand
Jun. 14th, 2015 04:20 pm (UTC)
Don't wait until the last minute
Voting closes July 31st. In theory, you could sign up on July 31st and vote, but the reality is that signup is not automated and it seems to take about a week to get your membership number and PIN. So there is lots of time, but don't wait until the end of July.
Bob Jenson
Jun. 14th, 2015 05:59 pm (UTC)
Best homework ever
I've finished "Three Body Problem" and "Goblin Emperor" and liked them both. Since I've never read "Ancillary Justice" I decided I had better read that first before moving on to its sequel. I'm enjoying that as well. I've read some of the Graphic Novels already, and believe I've seen all the movies nominated ("Interstellar" will get my vote). I'm confident I'll be able to be an informed voter when I cast my ballots. I'm excited for the con - haven't been to a major one since the mid-90s.
Be nice if Spokane can make this Worldcon shine a bit. With the sad puppy debacle happening this year and the world thinking we don't have any "real" African Americans here...well, it gets embarrassing.
Jun. 14th, 2015 09:53 pm (UTC)
Re: Best homework ever
Bob, I agree with you on 3 Body and Goblin. I read "Ancillary Justice" last year, and Mercy is as good or better. I'm in the same boat with the Dresden Files, but I won't even try to read all eight before I read the nom.

I am glad to hear I'm not the only one (apart from George!) reading up (though I won't be at the con).

Re: Best homework ever - gement - Jun. 21st, 2015 04:04 am (UTC) - Expand
Jun. 14th, 2015 09:32 pm (UTC)
You are giving me inspiration to write my novel. cOMPLETLY different plot of course..but the inspiration is there thanks to you Grrm!!
Thank you very much for ASOIAF (we all hope to see the great ending).
Regards from argentina!!
Jun. 14th, 2015 11:45 pm (UTC)
Discovered I'm a long day's trip from Spokane. Promptly bought ticket. Oh hey, Hugo War. Um....ok then :)

Edit: Honestly the whole mess is sad. I shall be reading/looking/evaluating and voting based on the merit of the pieces themselves. Trying to keep at least one part of this sane, right?

Edited at 2015-06-14 11:48 pm (UTC)
Oberyn Calderon
Jun. 15th, 2015 05:51 am (UTC)
Perception of the Imaginary Worldscape
This is just a curious question I have been asking many of my friends who write, and would honestly love to hear your answer George.

In all of the stories you have read, which world or time frame did you most connect with?

I know in the past you said that you harbor love for both science fiction type environments, and obviously have a love for the flavor and mysticism that medieval worlds/ times hold. I was just wondering if there was a specific world from a specific story that you truly felt was your home. I myself connect with medieval time periods because I felt like this was the somewhat "golden age" for mankind. Where we were really our "true" selves and man ran in tandem with nature and the "old ways" if you will. There was room for everyone to be happy and healthy (in a fashion).

Side note: I was born in Santa Fe, so I want to thank you for your contributions to the city. My dad is actually John Redtail (or John Freesoul, or Mereau, he's akways changing his damn name) and he was kinda big in the Native American art scene back in the late 80's/early 90's. Was there last year, can't say there is much of a Native American art scene there anymore, and I wasn't a fan of how gentrified the Plaza is looking, but it still had it's "enchanting" feel!
Jun. 15th, 2015 03:55 pm (UTC)
Re: Perception of the Imaginary Worldscape
My home? I like to visit Middle Earth and the Dying Earth and the thousand worlds of SF, but I don't think I'd like to live in any of those places.
Jun. 15th, 2015 01:09 pm (UTC)
Hello mr. Martin. Now that season 5 has ended, I'm glad to realize we're about8-10 months from the book 6 in our hands. You have hardly commented on the show, will you post an entry (perhabs with disabled comments) on the show, not that it has ended? Or do you think any kind of meaningful impressions you might give will result in spiling TWOW? Thank you for your time.
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