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My Position On the Syrian Refugees

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

Those words, of course, are by Emma Lazarus. Her poem, "The New Colossus," appears in bronze on the base of the Statue of Liberty. A statue given to the United States by France, our nation's oldest friend and ally... a bit of history that seems especially important just now, in light of the recent horrors in Paris.

For me, Lady Liberty and the words on her base represent the best of what this nation of immigrants is all about. One has to wonder if all the governors (including our own governor here in New Mexico, I am ashamed to say) and congressmen voting to keep out the Syrian refugees have ever visited the Statue, or read the words on her base. If so, they surely failed to understand them.

Of course, most everyone knows the part about 'your tired, your poor, your huddled masses,' but let me draw your attention to some other lines of the poem:
-- a mighty woman with a torch... her name Mother of Exiles,
-- from her beacon hand, Glows world-wide welcome,
-- send these, the homeless, tempest-tost, to me.

Emma Lazarus had it right. Donald Trump and thirty-one governors have it wrong, wrong, wrong.

The Syrian refugees are as much victims of ISIS as the dead in France.

Let them in. Santa Fe, at least, will welcome them.



Nov. 21st, 2015 02:13 am (UTC)
Re: Let them stay at your house, George
Again, it doesn't matter if you don't buy it, it is a matter of fact. The Arab Center for Research and Public Policy did this poll in 2014 of refugees in camps in Jordan, Lebanon and Turkey. They found 13% of refugees support ISIS. Here is a link directly to that survey.

The reality is, the population is more sympathetic to ISIS than the survey lets on. It is just shocking that 13% were open about it.

Very worrying indeed.

As I said before, 1 in 8 people supporting ISIS are not odds I am willing to play.

And a point about screening. One of the attackers so far in Paris used a fake Syrian passport when he came through Greece. We now have a situation where five syrian men were found with fake Greek passports in Honduras trying to enter our country.

So the country is rife with false documents during this civil war, so we have no way to corroborate them with the Syrian government there. So we have no idea who these people are.

I took ISIS at their word when they said they had operatives among the migrants before the Paris attacks. I take them at their word now that there are more operatives coming through now.

If we are to help these people, help them in their own country, don't risk this country's security.

A carjacking is not comparable to the Paris attacks. I am not willing to risk the lives of my fellow countrymen to help people who can be helped elsewhere. Allowing in these migrants, who are not refugees, is not the moral thing to do when it threatens our people's safety.
Nov. 21st, 2015 06:48 pm (UTC)
Re: Let them stay at your house, George
I would be careful about their word. They promised they would flood Europe with 500,000 jihadists. This is an organisation with 30,000 members tops. Either maths is not their strong point, or they are talking propaganda.
Nov. 23rd, 2015 12:11 am (UTC)
Re: Let them stay at your house, George
You consider a survey as "fact"? That survey took answers from 600 people from various countries and 900 people from the refugees. I didn't realize that such a tiny minuscule number of people surveyed represented 423 million Arabs and 3 million Syrian refugees.

You know, if you survey a tiny collective of people in Texas whether they support a Democrat or not, I'm pretty sure most of them will say they don't and even when the polls suggested that President Obama's popularity meter was super low, he still got re-elected for a second term. In other words: don't mistake surveys that question a tiny number of people as fact.

Also, during WW2, Japanese people were interned at prison camps because of the fear of Japanese saboteurs and spies. A similar thing happened with Italians and Germans. What did some of those Japanese, Italians and Germans do? They turned around and enlisted in the army to fight against the enemy which were not the USA.

In every group of people, regardless of their ethnicity and religion comes their extremists. There are lots of Christian extremists and terrorists, but we don't have a problem with them. You don't go out of the way to try to intern them and in fact, most Americans downplay them. Yet will go out of the way to say that all Syrian Refugees will bring harm because of the very tiny chance that a few ISIS operatives work under cover as a refugee.

One day America may be attacked and one day you may need to flee to Canada or Mexico. What if we tell you to fuck off because there is a chance someone in your community is a spy or saboteur? With a population of over 300 million, I'm sure your country is bound to have a few terrorists.


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