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Last Year (Winds of Winter)

The last post from the Lost Post, and the one you've all been waiting for.

Back when this was one long long long post, before Live Journal sent it to the cornfield, I mentioned opening with Dickens' line, "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times." So it was for me in 2015. I've spent much of the day recreating (in Cliff's Note summaries) my own personal "best of times" from the previous year, all the wonderful things that went down for me in 2015, the awards and the publications and the bestseller lists, the cons and the parties, the travel, all the exciting new projects underway at HBO and right here down the street in Santa Fe. But inevitably that brings me to my own personal "worst of times," and that is considerably less fun to blog about, so do forgive my reluctance to do so.

You wanted an update. Here's the update. You won't like it.

THE WINDS OF WINTER is not finished.

Believe me, it gave me no pleasure to type those words. You're disappointed, and you're not alone. My editors and publishers are disappointed, HBO is disappointed, my agents and foreign publishers and translators are disappointed... but no one could possibly be more disappointed than me. For months now I have wanted nothing so much as to be able to say, "I have completed and delivered THE WINDS OF WINTER" on or before the last day of 2015.

But the book's not done.

Nor is it likely to be finished tomorrow, or next week. Yes, there's a lot written. Hundreds of pages. Dozens of chapters. (Those 'no pages done' reports were insane, the usual garbage internet journalism that I have learned to despise). But there's also a lot still left to write. I am months away still... and that's if the writing goes well. (Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't.) Chapters still to write, of course... but also rewriting. I always do a lot of rewriting, sometimes just polishing, sometimes pretty major restructures.

I suppose I could just say, "Sorry, boys and girls, still writing," and leave it at that. "It will be done when it's done." Which is what I have been doing, more or less, since... well, forever. But with season 6 of GAME OF THRONES approaching, and so many requests for information boiling up, I am going to break my own rules and say a little more, since it would appear that hundreds of my readers, maybe thousands or tens of thousands, are very concerned about this question of 'spoilers" and the show catching up, revealing things not yet revealed in the books, etc.

My publishers and I have been cognizant of these concerns, of course. We discussed some of them last spring, as the fifth season of the HBO series was winding down, and came up with a plan. We all wanted book six of A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE to come out before season six of the HBO show aired. Assuming the show would return in early April, that meant THE WINDS OF WINTER had to be published before the end of March, at the latest. For that to happen, my publishers told me, they would need the completed manuscript before the end of October. That seemed very do-able to me... in May. So there was the first deadline: Halloween.

Unfortunately, the writing did not go as fast or as well as I would have liked. You can blame my travels or my blog posts or the distractions of other projects and the Cocteau and whatever, but maybe all that had an impact... you can blame my age, and maybe that had an impact too...but if truth be told, sometimes the writing goes well and sometimes it doesn't, and that was true for me even when I was in my 20s. And as spring turned to summer, I was having more bad days than good ones. Around about August, I had to face facts: I was not going to be done by Halloween. I cannot tell you how deeply that realization depressed me.

Early August saw me back east for my nephew's wedding and an appearance with the Staten Island Direwolves. I took advantage of the visit to have another sit down with my editors and publishers and told them that I didn't think I could deliver by Halloween. I thought they'd be sick about it... but I have to say, my editors and publishers are great, and they took it with surprising equanimity. (Maybe they knew it before I did). They already had contigencies in place. They had made plans to speed up production. If I could deliver WINDS OF WINTER by the end of the year, they told me, they could still get it our before the end of March.

I was immensely relieved. I had two whole extra months! I could make that, certainly. August was an insane month, too much travel, too many other obligations... but I'd have September, October, and now November and December as well. Once again I was confident I could do it.

Here it is, the first of January. The book is not done, not delivered. No words can change that. I tried, I promise you. I failed. I blew the Halloween deadline, and I've now blown the end of the year deadline. And that almost certainly means that no, THE WINDS OF WINTER will not be published before the sixth season of GAME OF THRONES premieres in April (mid April, we are now told, not early April, but those two weeks will not save me). Even as late as my birthday and our big Emmy win, I still thought I could do it... but the days and weeks flew by faster than the pile of pages grew, and (as I often do) I grew unhappy with some of the choices I'd made and began to revise... and suddenly it was October, and then November... and as the suspicion grew that I would not make it after all, a gloom set in, and I found myself struggling even more. The fewer the days, the greater the stress, and the slower the pace of my writing became.

Look, I have always had problems with deadlines. For whatever reason, I don't respond well to them. Back in November, when I returned to Northwestern to accept my Alumni Award, I told the Medill students that was why I started writing fiction instead of getting a job on a newspaper. I knew even then that daily deadlines would kill me. That was a joke, of course... but there was truth in it too. I wrote my first novel, DYING OF THE LIGHT, without a contract and without a deadline. No one even knew I was writing a novel until I sent the completed book to Kirby to sell. I wrote FEVRE DREAM the same way. I wrote THE ARMAGEDDON RAG the same way. No contracts, no deadlines, no one waiting. Write at my own pace and deliver when I'm done. That's really how I am most comfortable, even now.

But I won't make excuses. There are no excuses. No one else is to blame. Not my editors and publishers, not HBO, not David & Dan. It's on me. I tried, and I am still trying. I worked on the book a couple of days ago, revising a Theon chapter and adding some new material, and I will writing on it again tomorrow. But no, I can't tell you when it will be done, or when it will be published. Best guess, based on our previous conversations, is that Bantam (and presumably my British publisher as well) can have the hardcover out within three months of delivery, if their schedules permit. But when delivery will be, I can't say. I am not going to set another deadline for myself to trip over. The deadlines just stress me out.

I am going back to my stance from last March, before all this. It will be done when it's done. And it will be as good as I can possibly make it.

Having said all that, I know what the next question will be, because hundreds of you have already asked it of me. Will the show 'spoil' the novels?

Maybe. Yes and no. Look, I never thought the series could possibly catch up with the books, but it has. The show moved faster than I anticipated and I moved more slowly. There were other factors too, but that was the main one. Given where we are, inevitably, there will be certain plot twists and reveals in season six of GAME OF THRONES that have not yet happened in the books. For years my readers have been ahead of the viewers. This year, for some things, the reverse will be true. How you want to handle that... hey, that's up to you. Look, I read Andy Weir's novel THE MARTIAN before I saw the movie. But I saw the BBC production of JONATHAN STRANGE AND MR NORRELL before I finally got around to reading Susanna Clarke's novel. In both cases, I loved the book and I loved the adaptation. It does not need to be one or the other. You might prefer one over the other, but you can still enjoy the hell out of both.

Of course, there's an aspect to our situation that did not apply to either the Weir or Clarke cases. Those novels were finished before they were optioned, adapted, and filmed. The case of GAME OF THRONES and A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE is perhaps unique. I can't think of any other instance where the movie or TV show came out as the source material was still being written. So when you ask me, "will the show spoil the books," all I can do is say, "yes and no," and mumble once again about the butterfly effect. Those pretty little butterflies have grown into mighty dragons. Some of the 'spoilers' you may encounter in season six may not be spoilers at all... because the show and the books have diverged, and will continue to do so.


Just consider. Mago, Irri, Rakharo, Xaro Xhoan Daxos, Pyat Pree, Pyp, Grenn, Ser Barristan Selmy, Queen Selyse, Princess Shireen, Princess Myrcella, Mance Rayder, and King Stannis are all dead in the show, alive in the books. Some of them will die in the books as well, yes... but not all of them, and some may die at different times in different ways. Balon Greyjoy, on the flip side, is dead in the books, alive on the show. His brothers Euron Crow's Eye and Victarion have not yet been introduced (will they appear? I ain't saying). Meanwhile Jhiqui, Aggo, Jhogo, Jeyne Poole, Dalla (and her child) and her sister Val, Princess Arianne Martell, Prince Quentyn Martell, Willas Tyrell, Ser Garlan the Gallant, Lord Wyman Manderly, the Shavepate, the Green Grace, Brown Ben Plumm, the Tattered Prince, Pretty Meris, Bloodbeard, Griff and Young Griff, and many more have never been part of the show, yet remain characters in the books. Several are viewpoint characters, and even those who are not may have significant roles in the story to come in THE WINDS OF WINTER and A DREAM OF SPRING.

GAME OF THRONES is the most popular television series in the world right now. The most pirated as well. It just won a record number of Emmy Awards, including the ultimate prize, for the best drama on television. It's an incredible production with an incredible cast and crew.

WINDS OF WINTER should be pretty good too, when it comes out. As good as I can make it, anyway.

Which is a long way of saying, "How may children did Scarlett O'Hara have?"

Enjoy the show. Enjoy the books.

Meanwhile, I'll keep writing. Chapter at a time. Page at a time. Word at a time. That's all I know how to do.

((And yes, this is my final Cliff's Note for the day. You can all go to bed now)).


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Ahsan Syed
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:25 am (UTC)
No Worries
It's ok Mr. Martin! Many thanks for providing us with an update of how things are going on the TWOW front! I'll enjoy Season 6 when April comes, and once TWOW is published I'll snatch it up right away and enjoy that too. Hell, I watched the first 5 seasons of the show before reading the books so I know I'll enjoy TWOW just fine, regardless of whether it comes before April or not. Now go and get some sleep, Mr. Martin! You deserve it. :)

Edited at 2016-01-02 08:26 am (UTC)
Андрей В.П.
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:26 am (UTC)

I must say about biggest mistake in TV-show, people of North and Night Watch dont wear warm fur hats, and walk under cold winter with bare heads Its absurd and nonsense. Russians know it better than anybody. This mistake breaks all atmospherics and realism of world.
Meghan Buckley
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:27 am (UTC)
Thanks (from a first time poster)
Chapter at a time, page at a time, word at a time. The best way to eat an elephant? A bite at a time.

Thanks for the update, Mr Martin. I usually read novels before the tv show/movie but sometimes after and more often than not enjoy the novels more regardless. I love the HBO's GoT and will continue to enjoy and then I will read WINDS and ADoS when you get to them with just as much enjoyment. I also hate deadlines and pressure makes things harder sometimes, maybe not with straightforward actions but definitely with creativity. Hopefully with that taken away you can move forward with relief and things will naturally flow more easily. Happy new year from an Australian fan :-)

PS. I do not advocate the consumption of elephants.
Brianandcarina Thorgersen
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:27 am (UTC)
Thank you
Oh, George. Just OUCH. It's not the update we wanted, but it's the update we needed. And for that, thank you for your honesty. DAMN. stuck between a rock and a hard place about the next season. The hope for April was strong, but you know what, I'd much rather you be true to the story than rush and not tell the true story that's in your heart and mind, Thank you for all you've given us. And thank you for the update. As painful as it is, it's better to know! OH - and huge for Sunday - go JETS!
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:27 am (UTC)
winds of winter update
Thank you
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:27 am (UTC)
Whenever you're done is fine
Nothing more to say is there. If you haven't earned the right to work at your own pace at this point, then none of us ever will. In which case I'm breaking out the barricades and guitar.
Looking forward to reading.
Happy New Year.
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:28 am (UTC)
Thanks for the thorough update!
We love you and are clearly very excited to see what you eventually have in store! Appreciate hearing about the progress and where it's at, as it makes waiting a lot easier.

Keep up the good work! We all know it will be worth it.
Jazmn Sandoval
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:28 am (UTC)
Do you know what I did on my New Year's evening, George? Re-reading A storm of Swords. Then a little bit of A dance with dragons. Then a Clash of Kings. A Feast of Crows. A Game of Thrones.

And do you know why I did it? Just... because. Because I love the books so much that I can reading them on and on, a thousand times, and getting excited again, crying again, choking with rage again.

I could say many things to you right now but what's the point? I know that you'll feel depressed no matter what I say, because you're your own most severe critic. So be it. BUT... cheer up, man. It pains me to read what you wrote, and not because I won't have WOW, but because you sounded so... sad. I don't like it. I like the "It'll be done when it's done" because that's so... so spitfire, so you.

So... bugger the deadlines. Bugger those "the show will spoil us" whines. We read your books, we are adults. I think we can handle ourselves with that.

The Starks say that winter is coming and I know that it will, that you'll bring it to us in due time ;)
Ryan Coughlin
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:28 am (UTC)
Thank You

I never wrote one novel, let alone seven. I think back on all the amazing stories I've ever read, and wonder if any of them had a deadline concern. Did Andy Weir use a plot device to get from point A to point B because he was running out of time? What about Hawthorne or Tolkein?

I don't know, I don't care.

Write your story the way it is meant to be written. Is it your fault for being late, or my fault for reading early? Had I known WoW would be late, would I have read the first five books any later? Just think of all the learnings I would have deprived myself of. I would never have met Littlefinger or Varys, though now I have seen them in my own life and gained from it.

At the same time, I worry that fear may begin to fester (a word I use constantly now, thanks to you). Is it good enough? Is it ready??

By the same hand you use to cast away publisher deadlines, abolish these fears. You are the greatest storyteller I have ever known, and I anxiously await your story. I would not accept a lesser story sooner, but I would also not accept a great and divine concept that never came to page.

All this you know, but I've learned recently that sometimes it's important to hear these things from those who care.

Happy New Year,
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:28 am (UTC)
Diverging from the previously existing story lines works well for The Walking Dead. I'm just a little hesitant with the intentions of the showrunners. Are they more interested in spectacle and numbers or in telling a good story?
I fear the former.
Rochelle Siobhan Christensen
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:29 am (UTC)
A few years ago, I was lucky enough to be asked to show my paintings in a big deal gallery opening.
I rushed one of my huge, detailed, signature paintings in an attempt to finish on time and meet my minimum number of pieces submitted. The big fancy opening happened, and an art critic from the paper walked up to the rushed painting and ripped apart the rigging mistakes (it was a tall ship). I drowned myself in glenlivet.
Thing is, I knew I shouldn't have shown the damn thing. It wasn't done.
Only the artist can tell when the piece is complete.
Everyone else can wait...especially the critics.

Edited at 2016-01-02 08:33 am (UTC)
Noah Terrell
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:29 am (UTC)
I'm sure it will be worth the wait. I would rather you take your time and make it the best you can rather than rush it to meet a deadline.
Just started The Expanse series that should hold me over for a bit longer.
Thanks for update. You are the man!
David Salazar
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:29 am (UTC)
I'm sad to read that you are depress, i'm still waiting to finish my first chapter and i can't do it...

Edited at 2016-01-02 08:30 am (UTC)
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:29 am (UTC)
Hi George,

I think I speak for most of us when I say that the books are more important to us than the tv show, and we would rather wait for the book to be the best it can be, at a quality that you are happy with, than have it rushed just to catch up. In a few years from now, people will only judge the quality of the books rather than when they came out.

I think you're making the right decision, and I wish you the best for 2016!


Milica Pavković
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:30 am (UTC)
Dear Mr Martin,

I wish you a Happy New Year! And please, do not let people get to you with all the pressure! As a major ASoIaF fan I got really upset reading about how much pressure you are under. Please take care!
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