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Last Year (Winds of Winter)

The last post from the Lost Post, and the one you've all been waiting for.

Back when this was one long long long post, before Live Journal sent it to the cornfield, I mentioned opening with Dickens' line, "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times." So it was for me in 2015. I've spent much of the day recreating (in Cliff's Note summaries) my own personal "best of times" from the previous year, all the wonderful things that went down for me in 2015, the awards and the publications and the bestseller lists, the cons and the parties, the travel, all the exciting new projects underway at HBO and right here down the street in Santa Fe. But inevitably that brings me to my own personal "worst of times," and that is considerably less fun to blog about, so do forgive my reluctance to do so.

You wanted an update. Here's the update. You won't like it.

THE WINDS OF WINTER is not finished.

Believe me, it gave me no pleasure to type those words. You're disappointed, and you're not alone. My editors and publishers are disappointed, HBO is disappointed, my agents and foreign publishers and translators are disappointed... but no one could possibly be more disappointed than me. For months now I have wanted nothing so much as to be able to say, "I have completed and delivered THE WINDS OF WINTER" on or before the last day of 2015.

But the book's not done.

Nor is it likely to be finished tomorrow, or next week. Yes, there's a lot written. Hundreds of pages. Dozens of chapters. (Those 'no pages done' reports were insane, the usual garbage internet journalism that I have learned to despise). But there's also a lot still left to write. I am months away still... and that's if the writing goes well. (Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't.) Chapters still to write, of course... but also rewriting. I always do a lot of rewriting, sometimes just polishing, sometimes pretty major restructures.

I suppose I could just say, "Sorry, boys and girls, still writing," and leave it at that. "It will be done when it's done." Which is what I have been doing, more or less, since... well, forever. But with season 6 of GAME OF THRONES approaching, and so many requests for information boiling up, I am going to break my own rules and say a little more, since it would appear that hundreds of my readers, maybe thousands or tens of thousands, are very concerned about this question of 'spoilers" and the show catching up, revealing things not yet revealed in the books, etc.

My publishers and I have been cognizant of these concerns, of course. We discussed some of them last spring, as the fifth season of the HBO series was winding down, and came up with a plan. We all wanted book six of A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE to come out before season six of the HBO show aired. Assuming the show would return in early April, that meant THE WINDS OF WINTER had to be published before the end of March, at the latest. For that to happen, my publishers told me, they would need the completed manuscript before the end of October. That seemed very do-able to me... in May. So there was the first deadline: Halloween.

Unfortunately, the writing did not go as fast or as well as I would have liked. You can blame my travels or my blog posts or the distractions of other projects and the Cocteau and whatever, but maybe all that had an impact... you can blame my age, and maybe that had an impact too...but if truth be told, sometimes the writing goes well and sometimes it doesn't, and that was true for me even when I was in my 20s. And as spring turned to summer, I was having more bad days than good ones. Around about August, I had to face facts: I was not going to be done by Halloween. I cannot tell you how deeply that realization depressed me.

Early August saw me back east for my nephew's wedding and an appearance with the Staten Island Direwolves. I took advantage of the visit to have another sit down with my editors and publishers and told them that I didn't think I could deliver by Halloween. I thought they'd be sick about it... but I have to say, my editors and publishers are great, and they took it with surprising equanimity. (Maybe they knew it before I did). They already had contigencies in place. They had made plans to speed up production. If I could deliver WINDS OF WINTER by the end of the year, they told me, they could still get it our before the end of March.

I was immensely relieved. I had two whole extra months! I could make that, certainly. August was an insane month, too much travel, too many other obligations... but I'd have September, October, and now November and December as well. Once again I was confident I could do it.

Here it is, the first of January. The book is not done, not delivered. No words can change that. I tried, I promise you. I failed. I blew the Halloween deadline, and I've now blown the end of the year deadline. And that almost certainly means that no, THE WINDS OF WINTER will not be published before the sixth season of GAME OF THRONES premieres in April (mid April, we are now told, not early April, but those two weeks will not save me). Even as late as my birthday and our big Emmy win, I still thought I could do it... but the days and weeks flew by faster than the pile of pages grew, and (as I often do) I grew unhappy with some of the choices I'd made and began to revise... and suddenly it was October, and then November... and as the suspicion grew that I would not make it after all, a gloom set in, and I found myself struggling even more. The fewer the days, the greater the stress, and the slower the pace of my writing became.

Look, I have always had problems with deadlines. For whatever reason, I don't respond well to them. Back in November, when I returned to Northwestern to accept my Alumni Award, I told the Medill students that was why I started writing fiction instead of getting a job on a newspaper. I knew even then that daily deadlines would kill me. That was a joke, of course... but there was truth in it too. I wrote my first novel, DYING OF THE LIGHT, without a contract and without a deadline. No one even knew I was writing a novel until I sent the completed book to Kirby to sell. I wrote FEVRE DREAM the same way. I wrote THE ARMAGEDDON RAG the same way. No contracts, no deadlines, no one waiting. Write at my own pace and deliver when I'm done. That's really how I am most comfortable, even now.

But I won't make excuses. There are no excuses. No one else is to blame. Not my editors and publishers, not HBO, not David & Dan. It's on me. I tried, and I am still trying. I worked on the book a couple of days ago, revising a Theon chapter and adding some new material, and I will writing on it again tomorrow. But no, I can't tell you when it will be done, or when it will be published. Best guess, based on our previous conversations, is that Bantam (and presumably my British publisher as well) can have the hardcover out within three months of delivery, if their schedules permit. But when delivery will be, I can't say. I am not going to set another deadline for myself to trip over. The deadlines just stress me out.

I am going back to my stance from last March, before all this. It will be done when it's done. And it will be as good as I can possibly make it.

Having said all that, I know what the next question will be, because hundreds of you have already asked it of me. Will the show 'spoil' the novels?

Maybe. Yes and no. Look, I never thought the series could possibly catch up with the books, but it has. The show moved faster than I anticipated and I moved more slowly. There were other factors too, but that was the main one. Given where we are, inevitably, there will be certain plot twists and reveals in season six of GAME OF THRONES that have not yet happened in the books. For years my readers have been ahead of the viewers. This year, for some things, the reverse will be true. How you want to handle that... hey, that's up to you. Look, I read Andy Weir's novel THE MARTIAN before I saw the movie. But I saw the BBC production of JONATHAN STRANGE AND MR NORRELL before I finally got around to reading Susanna Clarke's novel. In both cases, I loved the book and I loved the adaptation. It does not need to be one or the other. You might prefer one over the other, but you can still enjoy the hell out of both.

Of course, there's an aspect to our situation that did not apply to either the Weir or Clarke cases. Those novels were finished before they were optioned, adapted, and filmed. The case of GAME OF THRONES and A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE is perhaps unique. I can't think of any other instance where the movie or TV show came out as the source material was still being written. So when you ask me, "will the show spoil the books," all I can do is say, "yes and no," and mumble once again about the butterfly effect. Those pretty little butterflies have grown into mighty dragons. Some of the 'spoilers' you may encounter in season six may not be spoilers at all... because the show and the books have diverged, and will continue to do so.


Just consider. Mago, Irri, Rakharo, Xaro Xhoan Daxos, Pyat Pree, Pyp, Grenn, Ser Barristan Selmy, Queen Selyse, Princess Shireen, Princess Myrcella, Mance Rayder, and King Stannis are all dead in the show, alive in the books. Some of them will die in the books as well, yes... but not all of them, and some may die at different times in different ways. Balon Greyjoy, on the flip side, is dead in the books, alive on the show. His brothers Euron Crow's Eye and Victarion have not yet been introduced (will they appear? I ain't saying). Meanwhile Jhiqui, Aggo, Jhogo, Jeyne Poole, Dalla (and her child) and her sister Val, Princess Arianne Martell, Prince Quentyn Martell, Willas Tyrell, Ser Garlan the Gallant, Lord Wyman Manderly, the Shavepate, the Green Grace, Brown Ben Plumm, the Tattered Prince, Pretty Meris, Bloodbeard, Griff and Young Griff, and many more have never been part of the show, yet remain characters in the books. Several are viewpoint characters, and even those who are not may have significant roles in the story to come in THE WINDS OF WINTER and A DREAM OF SPRING.

GAME OF THRONES is the most popular television series in the world right now. The most pirated as well. It just won a record number of Emmy Awards, including the ultimate prize, for the best drama on television. It's an incredible production with an incredible cast and crew.

WINDS OF WINTER should be pretty good too, when it comes out. As good as I can make it, anyway.

Which is a long way of saying, "How may children did Scarlett O'Hara have?"

Enjoy the show. Enjoy the books.

Meanwhile, I'll keep writing. Chapter at a time. Page at a time. Word at a time. That's all I know how to do.

((And yes, this is my final Cliff's Note for the day. You can all go to bed now)).


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Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:30 am (UTC)
S'all good, George. Just do your best.
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:31 am (UTC)
Hang in there George!
I've been with you on this journey since 2000. I can walk with you a little farther.

Edited at 2016-01-02 08:32 am (UTC)
Tom Clarke
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:32 am (UTC)
Thanks, Mr Martin
I just want to say that you don't owe us anything, Mr Martin.

By "us" I mean the fans of ASoIaF - perhaps you do owe your editors and publishers pages, but not us. We are fortunate just to have what you have already given us: a beautiful world filled with characters and driven by a story that has spawned a television show, not to mention the fandom.

It sounds to me that you are passionate about your writing, and this shows in how prolific and engaged you are. It also sounds as though winds has got you down - and more than never getting winds, I'd hate you to lose your passion for writing it.

So don't rush. Write it for yourself, and not for the fans. Don't lose your passion. And thank you for sharing what is obviously difficult for you to share. Your post has heartened me, because I can wait. You've provided so much other material that I might have to start on while I do so.
Dianna Surman
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:32 am (UTC)
Take your time
I know there are always publishers and deadlines to meet, but I hope in the end you'll feel like you told your story the way you wanted it to be told.

People who watch will watch and people who read can decide to wait if they'd like to. The choice is theirs. In the meantime, good luck with everything that's been thrown your way. Most of us are happy to wait as long as you need us to. Thank you for sharing your world with us so far--I hope the fans are kind. You're only human, after all. Godspeed.
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:32 am (UTC)
Though that news is disappointing, it's relieving for such an honest and real revelation about it. The easy way out would have been to just ignore it, or just say "It's not done, stop asking." But you went above and beyond that, explaining yourself to people you have no obligation to, because you care enough to do so... Though I bet it could have been somewhat therapeutic just write it all down and get it out. I hope 2016 brings an easier and less stressful time for writing and travel... And I'm sure when Winds is released, the anticipation will be well worth the wait.

Happy New Year, Mr. Martin.
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:33 am (UTC)
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Adam Wing
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:34 am (UTC)
With you to the end George. No disappointment; only anticipation.
Kala Veon
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:34 am (UTC)
Do whatever you need to do!
No problem. I personally have the same problem so I can relate, although you are certainly under a lot pressure so maybe I can't.
When you mentioned all of those characters, you made an excellent point that there is a few story lines that won't be ruined. I like to think I know where D&D are taking the main characters (don't we all? ;)
Maybe this is exactly what you need in order to finish. Don't beat yourself up over it! That's what's stressing you out.
Don't listen to all those negative people out there and do what YOU need to do. You'll get it done when you feel it's done. Good luck and good night!

I did manage to go to bed but kept waking up :) I'm not a let down fan though, so I hope that helps.
Matt Daniel
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:35 am (UTC)
Take your time
We love you George! Dont beat yourself up, you are working on a true masterpiece and your opis and as i myself am a huge fan of A.S.O.I.A.F, i want it to be finished the way that you envision it, not rushed because of a deadline. Once it's out there it's out there forever and I genuinely appreciate this amazing series you have gifted upon the world which has sent my imagination into overdrive for years now, as well as giving me many years of enjoyment. Im also a huge fan of you in general and admire the fact that you have never let the fame go to your head and are the same amazing person that you were from the start. I genuinely appreciate the huge sacrifices that you have made to continue working on WoW and deeply respect and feel strongly that you are only human and everybody needs to rest when necessary, everybody needs a moment to get away, and that you are no different. I want you to enjoy your success, I want you to enjoy your fame and fortune, and I want you to be happy and healthy, jeez George, youve certainly earned it. One thing that i hate so much is when some of these so called fans act like fanatics and expect you to be some kind of workhorse or slave to your books and act like you should never ever be doing anything else but writing only ASOIAF, and nothing else whether writing other stories, travel, watching a game, or going to the movies or a convention, acting like your sole purpose on this earth is to cater to and entertain them and who relentlessly demand instant gratification, especially the disrespectful ones. Screw that! Greatness takes time, the sistine chapel wasnt painted overnight, and if it had been would we even know about it or remember it in the 1st place, likely not. This is your baby George and us true fans completely support you. Take as much time as you need and please dont let yourself be bummed out. We all love you man and to hell with anybody who would sacrifice your health or happiness. You do you and fuhgeddaboudit, take all of the time that you need and dont let anybody tell you different brother. Cheers to you Btw Happy New Year!!!!!!!!!! Enjoy and have a great 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:35 am (UTC)
Happy new year
Well, first of all I'd like to wish you a happy new year - and being depressed doesn't go well together with a happy new year...It probably doesn't help your writing either, so rise an shine, Mr. Martin, rise and shine :)

Am I disappointed as a fan that Winds of Winter isn't finished yet? Yes, of course! Am I or any other person in the position to tell you how to write your book? No, of course not. Any person who has ever written more than a birthday card knows that you'd have to be in the mood for writing. I'd guess that this is especially true for something as complex as your work of fiction. Probably the many real-life-diversions that come with being a vip do not help, true, but again, wo am I or any other person to tell you how to live your live.

So please, rise and shine and do what you promised: Finish winds of winter whenever you feel it's finished and make it as good as you can make it :) I'll gladly wait for it.
Bob Mcqueen
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:35 am (UTC)
No worries
Having been with the books from the beginning, theres been an understanding (at least for me and some of my friends) that the books come out when they come out. The show has inevitably brought in new readers who may even outnumber fans that started with the books and these newer fans arent as patient, having the show on demand means the books should be on demand, right? Well, ive stopped watching the show, i did several seasons ago. Its very good, extremely well done, but it wasnt for me. I enjoy the books. With that said, take your time George. The absolute worst thing that could happen is for YOUR story to be rushed and published before its perfected, you cant rush perfection. Thanks for the update, thanks for the apology (although none was needed), thanks for creating a fantasy series that millions of people hold dear. Let me know when you truly are done, ill be reading/watching The Expanse in the meantime.
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:36 am (UTC)
Thank you for this. I look forward to Winds of Winter when it comes out. I know it will be great.
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:36 am (UTC)
Don't worry George, most of us your devote fans already knew you wouldn't meet the deadline even at the time you were starting the writing. Not because you're a failure, but exactly because you're great like that. This is not how great authors work: following deadlines. Great authors work when there's inspiration, and with the speed that this inspiration allows them to.

Some might argue you could've finished the job on time if you had withdrawn somewhere in the wilderness and lived like a hermit for a year, completely focused on this task. But that wouldn't be fair to you. You're a living person, you have the right to enjoy life, go travel, meet with people, have side-projects. You know: have a life. Perhaps that's what gives you inspiration in the first place, so it would be an atrocity to rob you of it.

You're neither married nor a slave to the publishers, HBO, or the fans. You shouldn't have felt depressed by blowing one deadline after another. That feeling of discontent is something that definitely affects the writing process itself. It's your life, you deserve it, and no one has the right to blame you for anything. Those ungrateful whiners can just shut up. The job will be done when it's done. Period.

As for the spoilers, you shouldn't worry about that either. You must've become perfectly aware by now that your readers will swallow the new book from cover to cover in a heartbeat, no matter how many spoilers they've seen in season six of the movie. That's how much we love you. And that's exactly why we forgive you. Just calm down, forget about the deadlines, sit down, and let it pour out from your heart, ole chap! <3
Luminous Brilliance
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:37 am (UTC)
No Worries
I like how the New England Pats and Belichek were defeated in NFL Beat Down. I'm cheating Tom Brady nothing touches me! :-)) The Freakin Jets took them down! :-))
Declan Curzon-Hepworth
Jan. 2nd, 2016 08:37 am (UTC)
Hope you're happy
Hey George,

As a long time following fan, I intend to continue watching the show while patiently waiting for the book, treating them as two separate entities. I hope that you do stay true to your word and that you don't cave into producing a watered down, incomplete version of a story you've set out just to please fans or publishers - take all the time you need and stay true to yourself and modus operandi; we'll all be waiting on the other side to congratulate you on another another epic book.

Anything good in life is worth waiting for.

- Declan.

Edited at 2016-01-02 08:43 am (UTC)
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