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Last Year (Winds of Winter)

The last post from the Lost Post, and the one you've all been waiting for.

Back when this was one long long long post, before Live Journal sent it to the cornfield, I mentioned opening with Dickens' line, "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times." So it was for me in 2015. I've spent much of the day recreating (in Cliff's Note summaries) my own personal "best of times" from the previous year, all the wonderful things that went down for me in 2015, the awards and the publications and the bestseller lists, the cons and the parties, the travel, all the exciting new projects underway at HBO and right here down the street in Santa Fe. But inevitably that brings me to my own personal "worst of times," and that is considerably less fun to blog about, so do forgive my reluctance to do so.

You wanted an update. Here's the update. You won't like it.

THE WINDS OF WINTER is not finished.

Believe me, it gave me no pleasure to type those words. You're disappointed, and you're not alone. My editors and publishers are disappointed, HBO is disappointed, my agents and foreign publishers and translators are disappointed... but no one could possibly be more disappointed than me. For months now I have wanted nothing so much as to be able to say, "I have completed and delivered THE WINDS OF WINTER" on or before the last day of 2015.

But the book's not done.

Nor is it likely to be finished tomorrow, or next week. Yes, there's a lot written. Hundreds of pages. Dozens of chapters. (Those 'no pages done' reports were insane, the usual garbage internet journalism that I have learned to despise). But there's also a lot still left to write. I am months away still... and that's if the writing goes well. (Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't.) Chapters still to write, of course... but also rewriting. I always do a lot of rewriting, sometimes just polishing, sometimes pretty major restructures.

I suppose I could just say, "Sorry, boys and girls, still writing," and leave it at that. "It will be done when it's done." Which is what I have been doing, more or less, since... well, forever. But with season 6 of GAME OF THRONES approaching, and so many requests for information boiling up, I am going to break my own rules and say a little more, since it would appear that hundreds of my readers, maybe thousands or tens of thousands, are very concerned about this question of 'spoilers" and the show catching up, revealing things not yet revealed in the books, etc.

My publishers and I have been cognizant of these concerns, of course. We discussed some of them last spring, as the fifth season of the HBO series was winding down, and came up with a plan. We all wanted book six of A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE to come out before season six of the HBO show aired. Assuming the show would return in early April, that meant THE WINDS OF WINTER had to be published before the end of March, at the latest. For that to happen, my publishers told me, they would need the completed manuscript before the end of October. That seemed very do-able to me... in May. So there was the first deadline: Halloween.

Unfortunately, the writing did not go as fast or as well as I would have liked. You can blame my travels or my blog posts or the distractions of other projects and the Cocteau and whatever, but maybe all that had an impact... you can blame my age, and maybe that had an impact too...but if truth be told, sometimes the writing goes well and sometimes it doesn't, and that was true for me even when I was in my 20s. And as spring turned to summer, I was having more bad days than good ones. Around about August, I had to face facts: I was not going to be done by Halloween. I cannot tell you how deeply that realization depressed me.

Early August saw me back east for my nephew's wedding and an appearance with the Staten Island Direwolves. I took advantage of the visit to have another sit down with my editors and publishers and told them that I didn't think I could deliver by Halloween. I thought they'd be sick about it... but I have to say, my editors and publishers are great, and they took it with surprising equanimity. (Maybe they knew it before I did). They already had contigencies in place. They had made plans to speed up production. If I could deliver WINDS OF WINTER by the end of the year, they told me, they could still get it our before the end of March.

I was immensely relieved. I had two whole extra months! I could make that, certainly. August was an insane month, too much travel, too many other obligations... but I'd have September, October, and now November and December as well. Once again I was confident I could do it.

Here it is, the first of January. The book is not done, not delivered. No words can change that. I tried, I promise you. I failed. I blew the Halloween deadline, and I've now blown the end of the year deadline. And that almost certainly means that no, THE WINDS OF WINTER will not be published before the sixth season of GAME OF THRONES premieres in April (mid April, we are now told, not early April, but those two weeks will not save me). Even as late as my birthday and our big Emmy win, I still thought I could do it... but the days and weeks flew by faster than the pile of pages grew, and (as I often do) I grew unhappy with some of the choices I'd made and began to revise... and suddenly it was October, and then November... and as the suspicion grew that I would not make it after all, a gloom set in, and I found myself struggling even more. The fewer the days, the greater the stress, and the slower the pace of my writing became.

Look, I have always had problems with deadlines. For whatever reason, I don't respond well to them. Back in November, when I returned to Northwestern to accept my Alumni Award, I told the Medill students that was why I started writing fiction instead of getting a job on a newspaper. I knew even then that daily deadlines would kill me. That was a joke, of course... but there was truth in it too. I wrote my first novel, DYING OF THE LIGHT, without a contract and without a deadline. No one even knew I was writing a novel until I sent the completed book to Kirby to sell. I wrote FEVRE DREAM the same way. I wrote THE ARMAGEDDON RAG the same way. No contracts, no deadlines, no one waiting. Write at my own pace and deliver when I'm done. That's really how I am most comfortable, even now.

But I won't make excuses. There are no excuses. No one else is to blame. Not my editors and publishers, not HBO, not David & Dan. It's on me. I tried, and I am still trying. I worked on the book a couple of days ago, revising a Theon chapter and adding some new material, and I will writing on it again tomorrow. But no, I can't tell you when it will be done, or when it will be published. Best guess, based on our previous conversations, is that Bantam (and presumably my British publisher as well) can have the hardcover out within three months of delivery, if their schedules permit. But when delivery will be, I can't say. I am not going to set another deadline for myself to trip over. The deadlines just stress me out.

I am going back to my stance from last March, before all this. It will be done when it's done. And it will be as good as I can possibly make it.

Having said all that, I know what the next question will be, because hundreds of you have already asked it of me. Will the show 'spoil' the novels?

Maybe. Yes and no. Look, I never thought the series could possibly catch up with the books, but it has. The show moved faster than I anticipated and I moved more slowly. There were other factors too, but that was the main one. Given where we are, inevitably, there will be certain plot twists and reveals in season six of GAME OF THRONES that have not yet happened in the books. For years my readers have been ahead of the viewers. This year, for some things, the reverse will be true. How you want to handle that... hey, that's up to you. Look, I read Andy Weir's novel THE MARTIAN before I saw the movie. But I saw the BBC production of JONATHAN STRANGE AND MR NORRELL before I finally got around to reading Susanna Clarke's novel. In both cases, I loved the book and I loved the adaptation. It does not need to be one or the other. You might prefer one over the other, but you can still enjoy the hell out of both.

Of course, there's an aspect to our situation that did not apply to either the Weir or Clarke cases. Those novels were finished before they were optioned, adapted, and filmed. The case of GAME OF THRONES and A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE is perhaps unique. I can't think of any other instance where the movie or TV show came out as the source material was still being written. So when you ask me, "will the show spoil the books," all I can do is say, "yes and no," and mumble once again about the butterfly effect. Those pretty little butterflies have grown into mighty dragons. Some of the 'spoilers' you may encounter in season six may not be spoilers at all... because the show and the books have diverged, and will continue to do so.


Just consider. Mago, Irri, Rakharo, Xaro Xhoan Daxos, Pyat Pree, Pyp, Grenn, Ser Barristan Selmy, Queen Selyse, Princess Shireen, Princess Myrcella, Mance Rayder, and King Stannis are all dead in the show, alive in the books. Some of them will die in the books as well, yes... but not all of them, and some may die at different times in different ways. Balon Greyjoy, on the flip side, is dead in the books, alive on the show. His brothers Euron Crow's Eye and Victarion have not yet been introduced (will they appear? I ain't saying). Meanwhile Jhiqui, Aggo, Jhogo, Jeyne Poole, Dalla (and her child) and her sister Val, Princess Arianne Martell, Prince Quentyn Martell, Willas Tyrell, Ser Garlan the Gallant, Lord Wyman Manderly, the Shavepate, the Green Grace, Brown Ben Plumm, the Tattered Prince, Pretty Meris, Bloodbeard, Griff and Young Griff, and many more have never been part of the show, yet remain characters in the books. Several are viewpoint characters, and even those who are not may have significant roles in the story to come in THE WINDS OF WINTER and A DREAM OF SPRING.

GAME OF THRONES is the most popular television series in the world right now. The most pirated as well. It just won a record number of Emmy Awards, including the ultimate prize, for the best drama on television. It's an incredible production with an incredible cast and crew.

WINDS OF WINTER should be pretty good too, when it comes out. As good as I can make it, anyway.

Which is a long way of saying, "How may children did Scarlett O'Hara have?"

Enjoy the show. Enjoy the books.

Meanwhile, I'll keep writing. Chapter at a time. Page at a time. Word at a time. That's all I know how to do.

((And yes, this is my final Cliff's Note for the day. You can all go to bed now)).


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Ana Rivera
Jan. 2nd, 2016 04:56 pm (UTC)
Thank you! 😉

I have never loved a story as much as I love ASOIAF. You have given a mother of two rambunctious boys a place to escape to at the end of the day, and for that I thank you. I'm sure WINDS OF WINTER will be great! Take your time, we'll be here when you're done.

What won't a mother do for her children? Please don't be so hard on Cersei. I luv her. And tyrion, and Jaime...
Tywin was a BOSS!
Iain Plimmer
Jan. 2nd, 2016 04:56 pm (UTC)
Thanks you
I'm sure many of us don't want a half assed book, and with that in mind i for one would wait another ten years. The only sad part is that where-as we book readers are reluctant to spoiler, it only takes one person on a social media feed to spoiler with no respect. I'm not looking forward to that. It's so frustrating........ ruined The Walking Dead and Star Wars for me so far. We'll just have to abstain from social med'a until it's released. All the best George.
Jan. 2nd, 2016 04:57 pm (UTC)
No worries
Hey George, just finish when you finish, I've waited over four years already so what's another few? As long the last two books are up to your standard the "when" they come out won't matter. Good luck!
Jan. 2nd, 2016 04:57 pm (UTC)
Personally, I like the idea that I'm still waiting for something that was started in the 90's. Cheer up, George.
Myles Cullen
Jan. 2nd, 2016 04:57 pm (UTC)
not disapointed
Write on, you modern day sage. We love you and support you. We will be here, eagerly anticipating your next amazing work. Be strong and realize now that there is no rush for your work and think, no, this is not a defeat, but a clear victory not only for the Book, but for yourself and your sense of pressure.

Have a wonderful 2016 Mr Martin.
Cory Hamilton
Jan. 2nd, 2016 04:57 pm (UTC)
George I cannot speak for everyone but I hope I can speak for most when it comes to this beloved series;

It will get here when they get here and I have no doubts it will be worth the wait!

Absence makes the heart grow fonder after all!

I am just thankful we have the series to digest and enjoy. Heck even if we got no new tales from Westeros in any form, History books, Novellas, or otherwise, it would still be top two in my all time favorites in terms of fantasy series.

I am thankful for the books and thankful for the show. GoT is the reason I have HBO.

I hope this post cheers you up a little :) You are the man George. Your methods work. We wouldn't want you any other way.
Madeeha Mishaal
Jan. 2nd, 2016 04:59 pm (UTC)
Thank you sir. Personally speaking i am going to wait for the book and then i will watch the show.
Jan. 2nd, 2016 04:59 pm (UTC)
Worth the Wait
You have so much extreme pressure on your shoulders that I would be shocked it if didn't cramp on your normal writing style. I love your books so much and am consistently in awe of the genius it takes to write and create a story as intricate and epic as A Song of Ice and Fire. It would be pretty naive and ungrateful for anyone to expect this series to be rushed. And, frankly, I want your real story, not something you feel pressured to rush because you have to meet a deadline.

If I have to wait to watch the show, I'll do that. Otherwise the stories have diverged enough that it's almost two separate stores now about many of the same people. We could watch the series to get the highlights and then read to learn what really happened later.

All this to say, don't feel disappointed. It's worth the wait.
Trish Permuy Ansley
Jan. 2nd, 2016 05:00 pm (UTC)
A writer's world...
...is dictated by the characters, who will have their say in their own time. Those who do not know the torment and the joy of such discourse cannot mandate a timeline. The pull of a powerful character's force can spin the trajectory of a carefully planned novel off-course, much to the surprise of even the writer himself. And a character's obdurate silence can drive a writer to fury. You do not owe your readers anything (contractual obligations notwithstanding). We owe you a debt for sharing your creative gifts - and our urgency stems from our delight in those. You know more than I that your duty is to heed the voices of your characters. However, I cannot help but wonder if saying goodbye to such longtime friends doesn't make the process all the harder. Godspeed! I will wait for the book, as your vision in print has - for me - always trumped the show, albeitexquisitely cast and well-done.
Jan. 2nd, 2016 05:00 pm (UTC)
Thank you for the update. I appreciated you being honest about deadlines and the pressure and stress they cause, impacting your writing process. I had a feeling that all the pressures and demands were not exactly helping the creative juices flow.
A couple of notes about books, adaptations, and timing:
1) "Harry Potter" is the giant example of films that came out before the book series was completed. All the actors, directors, producers, and screen adaptation writers had to create those characters and that world not knowing where they would end up.
2) Technically, "Twilight," the first film, was filmed and in the can before Meyer published "Breaking Dawn" later that year. But "BD" came out before "Twilight" arrived in theaters.
But having those two examples just off the top of my head, there are probably others. I think it's a 21st-century issue where so many books are book series (especially in YA), and no one wants to risk losing the audience's attention, so films get made pretty quickly. So I think there will be future examples as well of series premiering on screens (film or TV) before the final book appears.
What I think is unique in your situation is that the big spoilers are what some watchers care most about, almost to the exclusion of all else. Rather than character development or nuances in the political machinations, simply knowing who lives, who dies, who are Jon Snow's parents, who sits on the Iron Throne is what they're mainly here for. But you and the publishing and television teams know all that.
Jan. 2nd, 2016 05:00 pm (UTC)
A sobering read
George, I have to say that this was quite a sobering read (even after several tankards of mead - hiccup). But personally, you shouldn't even need to explain yourself - I hate deadlines as well! Sometimes they can be motivating, but at what cost? I write music and often find that deadlines can cause more damage in terms of the creative process, forcing out the ideas rather than them naturally forming instinctively or through experimentation.

I had the pleasure of meeting you back in 2012 and always fondly remember you saying you were more of the 'Gardner' type of author - the one who plants the seed and let's the story grow. It's in the telling of the tale. I doubt any deadline is going to help with that. Trust in the methods that's always worked the best for you and don't worry about the rest of us. We all want that version of your books; the organic one. The one that has grown from the instictive depths of your imagination. Not the one that came out due to you being tied down and flayed alive by a Bolton. And if for the rest of us that means waiting longer, the smiles will be wider in the end.

Best wishes.
Jan. 2nd, 2016 05:02 pm (UTC)
Waiting is hard, but it will be worth it in the end! You're an amazing writer, George. Keep up (at whatever pace you need) the great work! :)
Jan. 2nd, 2016 05:02 pm (UTC)
Aw, man. I feel for you. Good luck with the writing. I hope it all shakes loose and that there are more good days than bad from here on out.
Jan. 2nd, 2016 05:03 pm (UTC)
Carly Simon's voice sings, "Anticipa-aaa-tion"
Rothfuss is making us wait too.

S'ok, there's no shortage of reading material.
Jan. 2nd, 2016 05:09 pm (UTC)
It's your story.
I feel for you on this George. I am glad you are going down the path you are with no deadlines. Dont let anyone, especially fans, rush you.
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