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Coming to Spain (Still More)

Here are the details on my signing in Granada on July 25:

Librería Nostromo
C/ Buensuceso, 1 - Granada
Tlf: 958 523 818

from 18.00h to 21.00h

I also have the specifics for my appearances in Gijon at Semana Negra.

Saturday, July 12
6:00 pm -- introduction of Corominas' art book of A SONG OF ICE & FIRE

Sunday July 13
7:00 pm -- panel w/ Scott Bakker and Paco Ignacio Taibo II
9:00 pm -- Q&A chat with my translator, Cristina Macia

Those are my only official events at Semana Negra, but I will be arriving on July 11 on the Black Train, and leaving on July 15. In between, you'll often find me at the festival, signing at the Gigamesh booth, listening to the other panels, riding the rides, drinking sangria on the fairway (will the chicken be back, I wonder?), and eating midnight dinners like the Spanish seem to do. Parris and I love to meet my readers, so if you're there in Gijon, don't be shy about coming up and saying hi.

That's in July, though. Right now it's still June and I have one day left before I leave, so I had better cut this short. Things are getting frantic, as they always do before a trip.


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Jul. 9th, 2008 08:31 pm (UTC)
Congratulations to Ty. He is a great guy. George should be grateful to him for his work and Ty should be proud of himself.
It so good that we can read so many kind of opinions here, that you let us tell what we think, that we can debate, and no opinions are deleted.
It is so good that this page was established, otherwise how could we praise Ty. Who is such a good man. With godlike power. Which he uses so wise. And where elso could we worship George.
We hope George enjoys his stay in Europe as much as we enjoy Ty's company.

Jul. 9th, 2008 09:18 pm (UTC)
Open letter to GRRM
(reposting with a new subject line):

Wow. I have been lurking on this blog for years (dates back before the publication of AFFC). And I have to say, this is as volcanic as I've seen it. And so I have been moved to post for the first time.

I think vonlent captured well the feelings of many when s/he posted about "jaded fans lurking in the background". I could *almost* count myself amongst their numbers, however these circumstances and the feelings evoked by said circumstances are more complicated than the extremes so fervently espoused by phbalanced7 and sergawain1789.

I will try to sum it up in the hopes that there is a sane demographic that will lend a voice to these discussions and that perhaps I can make a small contribution to that voice. I want to address George directly, because I think it is rude to come into his journal and talk *about* him, as opposed to directly *to* him:

George - First of all, I absolutely love your work. Your writing, research, character development, plotting, historical accuracy, use of the language, command of the genre all are at or near the top of the heap in my regard. I think nearly all of us that read and contribute to your journal feel that way. Furthermore, I am grateful for the entertainment and new interests I have derived from reading and listening to your work. Were we to lose you for any reason whatsoever (ranging from apathy to alcoholism, drug addiction or factors more permanent, even tragic...), it would be a terrible loss to see your epic work - such an amazing work of art - unfinished. However, I would personally still be grateful to you for what I did have an opportunity to appreciate, albeit cut short of completion.

BUT. but, but, but... I, too, am disappointed. While I recognize you have many other interests which consume your time and interest, I am concerned that this project continues to slip. I recall when AFFC was completed, you asserted (in the after-word) that ADWD was well along and should see release the following year. That year has come and gone, another year has come and gone and soon another - three full years, two beyond a date you publicly asserted some confidence in. Now we are facing the possibility that ADWD will not see the light of day until spring of '09 or later. I hope you can understand the reactions to these delays, as seen in the light of expectations set by you, why some have expressed frustration to the point of out and out rudeness. I don't excuse personal attacks on you, or the intramural squabbling, but I really appreciate and identify with the frustration, anxiety and even anger that prompted it. I hope you do too.

Some have argued that you don't "owe" your fans anything, others have argued that you have entered into a contract of sorts. The truth, I believe, is in the middle. You do not, strictly speaking, owe a thing to your fans, You have created art, we have appreciated it and want more. We have become impatient because the wait has been a long one and because we are fearful the work will remain unfinished. Nonetheless, although it would be terribly disappointing to see the work unfinished, its greatness is still worthy of our praise - in my opinion.

On the other side of the coin, however, a reasoned argument can be made (and has been) that you are being somewhat disrespectful with your attention to other projects. No reasonable person should expect you to compromise your life - it is yours to live as you see fit. You have other interests and projects and they, too, enrich your life and help to make you the artist that you are. No one should for an instant argue that you should forgo those interests entirely. They contribute to the artist that you are. Nonetheless, seen in the perspective of what will soon be three years (and more) of delays to ADWD, I hope you can appreciate those arguments and can understand that they are born of impatience, fear and anxiety.

I won't end this with a whimper - or with a bang - but rather with a request. Please see the heat that has been generated here as what I think it is - anxious clamoring for continuation of a great work. And please take that anxious clamoring into full account as you consider your professional priorities and obligations in these coming months.

Jul. 9th, 2008 10:25 pm (UTC)
Re: Open letter to GRRM

Very well put and, in the main, I agree with your points.

When we were told that he would post on his website when ADWD was done, I understood his desire not to be constantly reporting the latest chapter completion. I accepted this course of action and settled in for what I though would be a reasonable wait.

Periodically, I would check in to see if the grand announcement was there but alas, it was not. What I found were postings regarding other projects. Projects in which I had no particular interests. Numerous projects appeared on the site but no ADWD. Projects coupled with "It will be done when it is done." seemed to give ADWD the "che sera, sera" priority.

I guess what hurt me was the - Bye! I'm off to Europe - posting. Not a word on ADWD. Searching around I find where once again the publishing date was put off.

Yes, I am being petulant and peevish, unreasonable and demanding. When I first read AGOT ten years ago, I bought my dad a copy and I bought him the hardcovers as they came out. Sadly Pops died before the story ended. I don't want to die before it ends. I don't want GRRM to die before it ends.

Jul. 10th, 2008 02:06 pm (UTC)
My only real complaint...
Is that he doesn't seem to continue writing on these trips...how is that helpful to any project?

we have laptops, with zip drive that can hold tons of documents...etc.....and then there's pen and paper...

"No, I didn't finish the novel, though not for want of trying. Nothing to be done about that but push on when I return."

Nothing to be done? Really...I find that hard to believe.

Whats funny is if he would have kept to his posting over a year ago about NO updates on "Dance" until it's done, I doubt people would be this annoyed.
Jul. 11th, 2008 06:55 am (UTC)
Re: My only real complaint...
I agree with you it would be a good thing to hear that George continues to work on the book on his trip as well. Maybe that way the book could be published earlier, BUT I know that this is not so easy as it seems. And it has nothing to do with the lazy attitude.
It seems to be a holiday abroad, but it is mostly work. Maybe it seems that signing books and having dinner with publishers, and con organisers is fun, but although it is interesting and sometimes fun it is mainly an obligation. It is mainly work. Mostly pleasant, but with a tight agenda it can be very tiresome.
I am sure otherwise that this trip to Spain Portugal and Ireland will help him writing the novel, because of their medieval atmosphere, because of the lots of impressions. I hope that this trip will recharge his Westeros feeling.
Re: My only real complaint... - werthead - Jul. 11th, 2008 02:11 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: My only real complaint... - vonlent - Jul. 11th, 2008 02:21 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: My only real complaint... - hippoiathanatoi - Jul. 11th, 2008 04:22 pm (UTC) - Expand
Jul. 10th, 2008 03:01 pm (UTC)
GRRM doesn't read and/or delete posts

You and GRRM should get on the same page about who deletes the posts.

I know that GRRM doesn't read any of this or delete posts, but coincidentally, 14 posts were deleted after his most recent journal entry. Posts, I might add, you previously deemed worthy to stay.

Anyhow, I've just realized how silly it is to make this post, since neither you nor GRRM will read it. I'm just wasting my valuable time, right?

Wait, this means that someone who isn't reading the posts is deleting them. It could be a new character for Wild Cards. His special power is sensing and eradicating criticism.

With this rich field of creative options I can see why GRRM pursues other projects.

Legal disclaimer: GRRM, I have created a church that worships you and everything you do, so please do not delete this post, or have Cleborg (new character name for Wild Cards, *crosses fingers*) do so. I love you Mr. Martin. I can't wait for the new book, whatever it is. Oh yeah, and all of the negative posters are douchebags.
Jul. 11th, 2008 03:29 pm (UTC)
There’s a lot of heat flowing around this thread, some of which I understand and some of which I don’t. However, it says a lot for the quality of this series and the skills of its author that people are getting so riled up on both sides of the fence that they feel moved to comment and argue. That, from a certain point of view, could be considered a good thing.

First off, it needs to be remembered that GRRM is not the fastest writer in the world, full stop. He isn’t Steven Erikson and he isn’t Peter F. Hamilton, both of whom can churn out 1,200-page paperbacks in 12-18 months. Of the individual volumes of A Song of Ice and Fire, only one – A Storm of Swords – has taken that amount of time to write and publish. It was sadly an exception. Yes, we’d love and I’m sure GRRM would love all seven books to be written on that timescale, but it's not going to happen. A Game of Thrones took 5 years to write, A Clash of Kings nearly 3, A Feast for Crows took 4 years to write and 5 to publish (once you add in the one-year false start) and A Dance with Dragons will have taken 4. During all of the GRRM attended fan conventions, edited other projects, and worked on Wild Cards or other things as well. He even took two years off from writing AGoT altogether to pursue a TV project. None of this is new.

"Ah, but he promised ADWD would come out 1 year after AFFC," you might say. Well, if I wanted to be pedantic than no he didn’t, he said he hoped it would come out. But I agree that when an author says something like that and even puts it in the back of the book and fails to achieve it, it’s a huge disappointment. In fact, I would argue that if GRRM had never put that statement in the back of AFFC he’d have received substantially less criticism than he has. On his not-a-blog, in interviews and Q&As and podcasts, GRRM has explained why he wasn’t been able to hit that deadline, his motives for wanting to make the book stronger by, for example, substantially rewriting all of Jon Snow’s chapters. And then there's the much-longer-than-initially-planned signing tour his publishers asked him to do for AFFC. But still, seeing those words in print in the back of a published book seems to have been taken as a sacred covenant of trust between author and fan, and the author failing to hit that target leaves the fan feeling angry and betrayed, a bit like Luke when he found out Obi-Wan lied to him about Darth Vader killing his father. Or something. In that ball park anyway.

Certainly the disappointment of being initially told that ADWD would (probably) come out in 2006 and it didn’t, is understandable. However, I would also argue that GRRM’s motives for not achieving that were well-intentioned (and yes, road to hell etc). Certain fans have had the opportunity, and granted most people commenting here probably haven’t, of hearing GRRM read chapters that are now in ADWD up to six years ago, and more recently hearing the rewritten versions. Without exception, the rewritten versions are stronger, somewhat faster-paced and have more drive to them. More major characters die. Others step up to the plate, or show greater growth and change. Important elements that have been kept to the background so far are coming to the fore. The prologue is the best out of all five books by a mile, seriously, and I consider AGoT’s to be one of the best fantasy openings of all time. Based on the evidence so far, the changes to ADWD which are the primary contribution to the delay of the novel, have all been worth every second. Maybe the rest of the book will suck, but I extremely doubt it.

At the end of the day, if ADWD comes out and it is as excellent as the preview chapters and the readings have suggested, then I guess everyone will be satisfied. And I strongly suspect GRRM will give no estimates whatsoever for when The Winds of Winter (Book 6 in the series) will be released, and maybe with no deadline to expect the book by, the criticism will die down, especially as within a year or two we will also have a new Dunk ‘n’ Egg story (which is already virtually completed, from the sound of it) and the companion volume (cowritten by others, to lessen the amount of time GRRM takes away from TWoW) as well, so we won’t have to wait quite so long for more Westeros material.
Jul. 11th, 2008 06:09 pm (UTC)
"At the end of the day, if ADWD comes out . . ."?

I assume that it will come out. But suppose it is on the level of AFFC in terms of reader reaction (i.e. yawn)? Will GRRM recognize the slip in interest and knuckle down for TWOW? Or will he maintain his laissez-faire approach to the series?

(no subject) - werthead - Jul. 12th, 2008 12:17 am (UTC) - Expand
Best Comments so Far! - herta2 - Jul. 11th, 2008 09:33 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Best Comments so Far! - werthead - Jul. 12th, 2008 12:23 am (UTC) - Expand
Jul. 12th, 2008 08:09 pm (UTC)
"Moral obligation" might be a bit strong. "Simple courtesy"?

No he shouldn't be burned at the stake, nor even have to stand in the corner. He -owes- us nothing.

But it sure is...mmm...LAME.

And you know what, being a writer also has something to do with getting the ^#&*@ing job done, just as with any other method of making a living. This is becoming the literary Chinese Democracy.

Time will tell. But if the wait actually bothers you beyond rolling your eyes, then go find a hobby.

Jul. 13th, 2008 06:52 am (UTC)
Just waiting on you, sweetheart.
Jul. 16th, 2008 06:23 pm (UTC)
To all this boring people who only ask "I want more books when it will be finished ???" like a 5-years old baby :

1.- Find a resurrect spell
2.- Resurrect your favourite/s writer/s
3.- Bug them to write more books for you
4.- If they're zombies they have to obey you, but I can't guarantee the reasult please you, zombies doesen't have too much brains you know
5.- If they're another thing maybe they teach you don't disturb older people
6.- Good luck

Jul. 17th, 2008 12:09 am (UTC)
Rhode Island, USA
Please come to RI!! I can't go to Spain. I hope you're having a wonderful time and being inspired. You deserve it.
Jul. 23rd, 2008 03:14 pm (UTC)

You are the world' greater producer that S.I churn in the acquaintance of yours largeness. Prostrate to your feet. I can only dare the hope to kiss your great donkey with all love that I hold for you. They are not worthy to leccare the sweat from your large and vigorous popular ones.
Jul. 24th, 2008 10:02 pm (UTC)
Come home soon. We miss you!
Aug. 3rd, 2008 11:31 pm (UTC)

I do not understand because my desires good for Mr. Martin have taken off! Mr. Martin is a great, great writer who must recline so he can go to the following convention. Him awhile wonderful desire.
Aug. 7th, 2008 05:28 am (UTC)
Not related to Spain.
So, Brett Favre is now a Jet. Any comment?
Aug. 7th, 2008 11:22 am (UTC)
congrats on getting Favre.
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