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Chesley Nominations

ASFA has announced this year's nominations for the Chesley Awards.

I was very pleased to see that Magali Villenueve was nominated for her extraordinary and beautiful work on this year's Ice & Fire calendar.

My congratulations to Magali. She faces some formidable competition, but we'll be rooting for her. She's a very talented young artist, and I hope we'll be seeing a lot more of her work in the years and decades to come.

Also, I see that Richard Anderson is up for best hardcover cover for his cover for my friend Vic Milan's novel DINOSAUR LORDS. Well deserved. It's a stunning cover.

FILE 770 has the whole list here:


((I do wish that the Hugo Awards would get rid of the 'Best Professional Artist' category, and go with a Best Cover award instead, like the Chesleys. Reward the work, not the person)).



Jun. 11th, 2016 11:38 pm (UTC)
Re: Best Professional Artwork/Day 5 Business Meeting
Vess is indeed an incredible artist, but...

"He didn't get a Hugo nom," you say. Exactly.

Look, I love interior art in books. Once I had enough clout to get my own books illustrated, I did so. Look at the gorgeous Meisha Merlin and SubPress limiteds of I&F, and the more recent trade of A KNIGHT OF THE SEVEN KINGDOMS. None of the art from which has ever been nominated. Much like Vess and STARDUST.

There is no point in structuring the category to include interior art if no interior art is ever going to win or be considered.

It's like saying, "well, dramatic presentation should include ballet too." Maybe it should. But no ballet will ever win, why not make it explicit what the category is actually about?
Jun. 12th, 2016 12:55 am (UTC)
Well, as you know from the discussions over the split of Best Dramatic Presentation, I was opposed to any change that would have led to the sum of the two new categories being less than the original one, so we possibly will never be able to agree on this. And for that matter, have there not been BDP finalists and even winners (see "Gollum's Acceptance Speech" in the 1994 Hugo Awards) that would be excluded from consideration if we required them to be exclusively "television shows" and "theatrical motion pictures?" Indeed, if we had been excessively narrow in our definitions in such a hypothetical "TV/movie" split, Game of Thrones episodes would not have been eligible on the grounds that HBO isn't "broadcast" television. You know how obsessive people can be about definitions. I wouldn't do it, but I can certainly see other people fussing about it.

I think that in general we should let the definitions be pretty broad and not worry about walling off the edge cases. They'll take care of themselves. It's almost as bad as trying to define "science fiction and fantasy," which we do not do, much to the dismay of some of those previously mentioned obsessive types.
Frank Probst
Jun. 12th, 2016 01:31 am (UTC)
Re: Best Professional Artwork
Hmmm. I think I'm going to admit that I've lost the argument here. You're right. If Vess couldn't get a nom, then it ain't going to happen. I'd like to hear what the artists think, but I'd be willing to support a Best Cover award.

And now I'm going to go spend the rest of the night trying to get the Star Wars Ballet out of my head. Chewbacca is giving a standout performance right now.
Jun. 12th, 2016 04:54 pm (UTC)
Re: Best Professional Artwork/Day 5 Business Meeting
There is no point in structuring the category to include interior art if no interior art is ever going to win or be considered.

They didn't win, but Phil Foglio and Fiona Staples were both finalists in recent years. And Shaun Tan (twice a winner, twice a runner-up) is, I think, more popular for his picture books than for his covers; I really wouldn't conclude that his nominations were on the strength of the latter rather than the former.

Even discounting the past two years for obvious reasons, I see the Hugos as having become friendlier to non-cover art within the past decade. I also think that--in the absence of interference by bad actors--this would be an upward trend, partly due to the internet, and partly due to Hugo voters' growing interest in comics.
Jun. 12th, 2016 11:15 pm (UTC)
Re: Best Professional Artwork/Day 5 Business Meeting
Phil Foglio and Fiona Staples were finalists in Graphic Novel, not Professional Artist, unless I am misremembering.
Jun. 13th, 2016 12:55 am (UTC)
Re: Best Professional Artwork/Day 5 Business Meeting
It's true that Girl Genius and Saga have both been Best Graphic Story finalists and/or winners multiple years, but Phil Foglio was also a Best Professional Artist finalist in 2008 and Fiona Staples was one in 2014.


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