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Here We Go Again

Well, my NFL season got underway this morning pretty much as expected: with the Jets losing.

They were playing another rebuilding team from the AFC East, the Buffalo Bills. One of the weaker teams on their schedule, yeah... but they still managed to lose, and look terrible doing so. The Bills gutted Gang Green with their running game, going right through the line... where, as it happens, Sheldon Richardson used to be standing.

On the good side, our first round draft choice looked pretty good.

The rest of the team, not so much.

And instead of playing either of the young QBs, to see what they've got and maybe watch them develop, we played the old guy, Josh McCown, a 38 year old journeyman on his 8th team. Sorry, I just don't see the point.

It's going to be a long long season for fans of Gang Green.

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Lorinda Dishington Ortiz
Sep. 10th, 2017 09:06 pm (UTC)
It Could Be Worse
I don't know much about football, but my husband, who is a New York fan, wants me to let you know that it could be worse. They could still have Sanchez. He also says 2018 will be better as long as they don't win more than 3 games this season.
Marcus Musick
Sep. 10th, 2017 09:25 pm (UTC)
On the bright side, the Jets will be competing for the #1 pick. They need a franchise QB if they hope to turn things around.
gonzo21
Sep. 10th, 2017 09:27 pm (UTC)
Would Kaepernick not have been better than McCown?
grrm
Sep. 10th, 2017 09:53 pm (UTC)
Maybe. Depends on what your goal is.

If the goal is winning four or five games this year, yeah.

If your goal is eventually winning a SuperBowl, no. Kaepernick will never lead a team to a SuperBowl.
gonzo21
Sep. 10th, 2017 09:56 pm (UTC)
I just wonder if their intent is to try and lose every game this season and come last, do the fans stick by them? As I recall you've been suffering with this team for several years now?

People do sometimes need something to cheer about.
Rich Lehmkuhl
Sep. 10th, 2017 10:39 pm (UTC)
I agree. Kapernick was not a long term solution. I am hoping the Jets have a long term plan.
Matthew Park
Sep. 10th, 2017 11:02 pm (UTC)
Kaepernick already has led a team to the super bowl.
grrm
Sep. 10th, 2017 11:18 pm (UTC)
That was Jim Harbaugh, methinks.
josiegel
Sep. 11th, 2017 05:08 pm (UTC)
I don't think Kaepernick's winning any Super Bowls, but even at 29 he's got to be better than a lot of the mediocre Qbs out there.

Given that lots of other athletes have joined in some form of anthem protest, I'm not really sure why he continues to be singled out though.
Prom000
Sep. 11th, 2017 06:42 pm (UTC)
so...
team was also very very good. Georg Q: what about the Kaep Situation? going by the comment from Mara, it seems Owners are just to afraid to lose if they dont keep the right wing football fans happy and Kaep isnt the kind of QB that is that good that these kind of fans would care any longer. So in that case i can see owners not waniting Kaep.
William Gicking
Sep. 11th, 2017 04:16 am (UTC)
He already led a team to a Super Bowl, in fact led them to within a play of winning it and then proceeded to taking them deep into the playoffs the next year, a play away from back to back Super Bowl appearances.

As a niners fan the minimizing of Kap's play drives me nuts. Even last year with a pathetic supporting cast on offense and Chip Kelly's joke of an offense Kap still put up good numbers.
sevastra82
Sep. 12th, 2017 10:48 am (UTC)
Well, technically George, Kaepernick already led a team to the Superbowl once, but I agree that he'll never do it again.
dunknegg
Sep. 11th, 2017 12:02 am (UTC)
NFL
I wish your Jets success in getting Darnold if that is their goal as it appears to be. The Giants, I wish them a long quiet flight home tonight. Go Boys!

Edited at 2017-09-11 12:06 am (UTC)
Alexander Pendergrass
Sep. 11th, 2017 12:13 am (UTC)
The Lions took me for a ride this afternoon. Started awful and then crushed the Cardinals, who were favored to win. So far so good!
Creed Borden
Sep. 11th, 2017 08:56 am (UTC)
Sorry about both the Jets and Giants losing, especially at the hands of the Cowboys. I hope the Jets use their early round draft pick to pick up Darnold or Rosen, that team needs a franchise QB. You also have to wonder if the clock is ticking on Bowles, he hasn't had a winning season yet. I guess the bright side is that the Patriots lost in a horrible fashion on Thursday night.
Ana Rivera
Sep. 11th, 2017 12:35 pm (UTC)
On a sadder note
Good Morning George & (Everyone)...
9/11 The North remembers. 😢

House Lannister 4ever! 🦁
Peter Davies
Sep. 11th, 2017 12:45 pm (UTC)
I would love to hear your thoughts on the Giants game! Personally, although it was surprising and disappointing, I don't think they played quite as badly as the score suggests. The defence looked competent - not superb, but not at all bad, and you have some excellent players in the likes of Landon Collins, etc.
The O-line is weak, but Eli has shown in the past that he can manage behind a weak O-line so all is not lost, and you'll have OBJ back soon. It was a frustrating game. They didn't play up to their potential.

It feels like quite a strange first week in the NFL! The Bengals being held to zero, the Giants only managing a field goal, and the Patriots looking a bit lost and clumsy. Frustrating injuries too, for Allen Robinson and Danny Woodhead.
mktesq
Sep. 11th, 2017 01:21 pm (UTC)
Cowboys
George: I bet you a milkshake on your FB page that my 'Boys would beat your Gints. You didn't accept it, but I will allow you to go double or nothing with me when we come to the Meadowlands. My guess is that Eli will be in traction by then because if the Cowboys can ring up 3 sacks on him, my oh my, he will be like a pinata at a 5 year old's birthday party.

chazzym
Sep. 12th, 2017 08:37 pm (UTC)
Re: Cowboys
Ah, come on. Give the Cowboys' D a little more credit than that. They might not have a superior pass-rushing beast, but I think our front seven is actually pretty solid, and will be even more solid once David Irving comes back. Show a little love!

And besides, a piñata at a five-year-old's party is actually pretty safe. Speaking from personal experience, grownup spectators standing around the piñata are actually in more danger. :-)

Edited at 2017-09-12 08:38 pm (UTC)
harryberger89
Sep. 11th, 2017 01:38 pm (UTC)
Football and Tanking
Tank for a quarterback. Apparently this years QB draft class is deepest it has been in years. Trust the Process!
Robert Leibowitz
Sep. 11th, 2017 01:43 pm (UTC)
Miserable
Ugh,

After having to suffer through the Mets season watching the Giants offense play so flatly last night was zero fun to watch. I guess it only can get better from here especially when Beckham returns. At least the defense looked good!
angelos_l
Sep. 11th, 2017 01:52 pm (UTC)
Your posts have made me interested in American football. Are there any specific games or moments that you recommend watching? I'm still literally clueless about the history of the sport, so any small guidance would be welcome!
grrm
Sep. 12th, 2017 05:50 am (UTC)
Obviously my own memories are colored by my love of my own teams, but some of the most iconic games are the Jets win in SuperBowl III and the Giants upset of the unbeaten Patriots.

For a broader view, NFL Films has a terrific series of highlights from every SuperBowl, first to last. Aside from my New York teams, a particular favorite is SuperBowl IV, where Chiefs coach Hank Stram was wired for sound.
Julio Gidera
Sep. 12th, 2017 08:26 pm (UTC)
SuperBowl LI
I'm curious as to your thoughts on the previous SuperBowl. Many were rooting for Atlanta (myself included), but there's no denying that New England fought hard and just wanted it more. It was a well-played game and is, in my mind, the most memorable match of recent times (even moreso than XLVIII when my beloved Seahawks won).
SkynSand
Sep. 12th, 2017 06:37 am (UTC)
I heard something about the 2017 Super Bowl being one of the greatest ever! Also something about how we are lucky enough to have the goat QB play in our lifetime! Seriously though, whatever you may think of Brady, it was an amazing game and it was the greatest comeback ever. Just watch Superb Owl LI and get ready to cheer for the greatest team in the NFL.
JOHNLENON2
Sep. 11th, 2017 02:04 pm (UTC)
hopefully not a 0-16 season but yeah the rebuilding process will be dark and full of terror
Joe Watson
Sep. 11th, 2017 02:19 pm (UTC)
In last year's first NYG/Dallas showdown, 19 points wasn't enough for Dallas to win. This year, 19 points was enough for a blowout.

The Giants' offense is totally different with no OBJ. They can't run the ball and none of the other WRs look to pose a threat. And why was the O-line not addressed in the off-season?

Having said all that, Dallas' front line on defense looked dominant, and they'll be getting players back, too.

Week 14 at MetLife should be a totally different game, assuming OBJ is back.

George and other Giants' fans, I wish you good fortune in the wars to come... Now how 'bout them Cowboys?!



Edited at 2017-09-11 05:20 pm (UTC)
Nick Ohlheiser
Sep. 11th, 2017 02:47 pm (UTC)
The Jets and Bills were smart to blow up their teams while the Patriots are at their peak. I've been too hurt too many times to be optimistic about the Patriots getting drubbed in the opener. Its too early in the college season to be sure, but there's currently there are two to three quarterbacks that have the talent to actually deserve to be taken in the Top 5.
bduhon
Sep. 11th, 2017 03:24 pm (UTC)
At least you're not Cleveland . . . oh, wait
I'm a Saints fan, but also a fan of football in general, and I don't envy you your fandom of either NY team. The Jets have no detectable strategy -- can they just roll out a backfield entirely of QBs at this point? The Giants whacked Coughlin in favor of the offensive genius whose genius apparently doesn't extend to "draft offensive linemen who can block the large gentlemen on the other team."

When Cleveland looks like they've got a better plan (though the idiocy of dumping Haden might be showing a crack in that), it's going to be a long year.
Maximilian Rubell
Sep. 11th, 2017 04:58 pm (UTC)
Not to mention you could probably have comatose post-blood-sacrifice Drogo manage a clock better than Bowles. Punting for field position was inexcusable, there was zero reason to believe the defense could generate a turnover.

Beyond that, I found the ILBs to be dreadful. Lee is looking to be another bust like Pryor; someone who can hit hard but lets the game completely pass him by. They consistently stuffed the wrong holes and reacted slowly to offensive schemes. This is making Mac's drafting more suspect than ever. The guy needs to evaluate his scouts better... You often say that the Patriots are the Blue and White Walkers from Beyond the Wall, and I suppose that makes sense, because the Jets draft talent about as well as the Night's Watch does.

They had Adams playing out of position as linebacker for 75% of the snaps -- it's a silly and strange decision to take a rookie out of his natural position.

Mo Wilkerson was lukewarm at best, and Forte played with zero energy. Why Powell was kept so far from the game makes no sense to me. If we were serious about this front line we should have kept Richardson instead of Wilkerson (yes, even before Mo's injury Richardson was the better player) and kept Snacks.

This morning in Brooklyn there was an MTA turnstyle that was completely broken and letting anyone through without stopping them. Walking through it, I immediately thought of our Offensive Line. Whichever incredible QB we draft next year is going to be immediately reduced to a green puddle playing behind our current line.

Thankfully the Patriots loss this Thursday may be able to sustain my spirits at least until next weekend. But unless Drew Brees can stop an angry Brady, I don't know how I'll make it through the games next week :(
Kevin Patrick
Sep. 11th, 2017 06:00 pm (UTC)
Eagles!
Fly Eagles Fly!
Prom000
Sep. 11th, 2017 06:46 pm (UTC)
Josh McCown
is the guy to get when you want that #1 pick. he gives you that. then again this is the jets, with your guys luck it comes down to the last game where evil lil bill already has the #1 seed in the AFC and loses deliberately to demy the jets that #1 pick.
Braden Williams
Sep. 11th, 2017 07:25 pm (UTC)
Never too late!
It's never too late to change allegiance to that other Gang in Green - the Green Bay Packers! My Pack looked unbelievable against those Seachickens from Seattle, and it did my heart good to see Eddie Lacy not do a darn thing all game. Thankfully Seattle wasted all that money on him and not the Packers by re-signing him.

Gotta say the Jets are tanking on purpose, and boy should they. They're clearly in dire need of a franchise-caliber QB, and this next draft class should have plenty of those types of QBs available. McCown shouldn't be any team's first choice, and Hackenberg has 6 letters too many on the back of his last name, he's simply a "hack". Petty probably should be the starter, but Jets need to lose to win in the future. And your boys in blue the Giants didn't look much better either, might be a long season of football in New York/New Jersey this time around!!
Caleb Sprague
Sep. 11th, 2017 09:14 pm (UTC)
McCown
Last year, as a Browns fan, I got to see McCown start instead of a younger player with at least some potential (Kessler).

It wasn't good for the future of the franchise to start McCown, but I still think it was really the only choice at the start of the season. McCown is a great player/coach that helped the rest of the young team lean and grow.

I think he can do the same for the Jets. As a fan it sucks to watch, but as a person McCown as a lot to offer and puts it all on the table.
LaurT56
Sep. 11th, 2017 09:29 pm (UTC)
And yet better offense than the Giants!
I kind of thought the Giants would play slightly better against that bad Dallas defense - but nope and on a national night too.

The defense did their best - too tired to keep moving by the end.
Mac Lollar
Sep. 11th, 2017 09:57 pm (UTC)
The Jets
The Jets just need to look back to 1965-1976 they might find where their best quarterback came from.... They have a few years to think on it... Roll Tide!
sevensent
Sep. 12th, 2017 12:04 am (UTC)
Same old Jets
I was not shocked that the Jets are rebuilding this year. Only that they won't admit it. I think the O-line is so bad, maybe they're worried the young quarterbacks will get hurt? Plus, as a younger player it might be hard to swallow your pride and lose when you're basically being told the season is a loss.

I was sorry to see the Giants perform so poorly as well, and what happened to Brandon Marshall? He really took a step back from his Jet days.
Williamjames Hoffer
Sep. 12th, 2017 12:36 am (UTC)
And the good news is
How about the Patriots losing? Is that good news? Go iggles.
BJ Wellman
Sep. 12th, 2017 05:49 am (UTC)
I look forward to watching the Lions goto New York next week and take care of business on Monday night. Its unfortunate the Lions dont play the Jets this season. Id love to get that guaranteed win. This is coming from a Lions fan who has lived 36 years of pure disappointment. So my hopes are up for next Monday.. why do I do this to myself.
BJ Wellman
Sep. 12th, 2017 06:25 am (UTC)
I look forward to watching the Lions goto New York next week and take care of business on Monday night. Its unfortunate the Lions dont play the Jets this season. Id love to get that guaranteed win. This is coming from a Lions fan who has lived 36 years of pure disappointment. So my hopes are up for next Monday.. why do I do this to myself.
slancet27
Sep. 12th, 2017 05:39 pm (UTC)
cant even rebuild correctly
First off, Mo Wilkerson, another New Jersey guy like you has turned it in. He has 0 hustle, looks fat and looks uninterested. They should cut him now and give younger hungrier players a look. His contract isn't guaranteed after this year so he's toast anyways.

Next, while Matt Forte is at least trying, how is playing a 31 year old RB the majority of the snaps rebuilding?!? Get Powell more carries as well as the rookie Mcguire who looked ok in the preseason.

Finally, I'm not going to talk about Mcnown starting at 38, need some stability. But the coaching is atrocious!!! Buffalo has 1 major playmaker, we "game planned" for him and Mccoy still shredded us!! All Boweles can say is "missed assignments"! NOT GOOD ENOUGH!! Punting down by 9 with 4 minutes left is a absolutely inexcusable!

We might go 0-16 and get the #1 pick, but do you trust the Jets current management to get that right? I don't. See Darron Lee (worst middle LB in the NFL....BY FAR!!), Christian Hackenburg,etc etc.
Phil Jonasson
Sep. 12th, 2017 05:40 pm (UTC)
Tanks
Cant imagine you liked the G-men's performance either...
Still, they actually have a shot at a good season (so long as Eli gets some protection).

The Jets already look like theyre resigned to tank, looking to next springs draft. How can you let a guy like Richardson go!? He looked alright on the new squad, too
Stephen Richter
Sep. 12th, 2017 06:51 pm (UTC)
Re: Draft Pick
So will the Jets use yet another 1st rounder on a Quarterback? If a team uses 3 first rounders on a QB they will suck for a generation.
Mariano Maiocchi
Sep. 13th, 2017 11:24 am (UTC)
NFL
Sorry for your troubles... mind, as a San D... gosh... Los Angeles Chargers fan I can tell you it could be worse.
Looking on the Giants side, as a San... jeez... Chargers fan I'd still like to see Eli Manning burnt to crisp by a dragon flame so, no, I'm not so sorry. :-)
But as an italian, I'm celebrating Giorgio Tavecchio's brilliant debut in NFL, so I guess it's not so bad after all.
Enjoy the season.

(P.s. seriously, I appreciated very much your post about the Chargers' decision to relocate in Los Angeles; thanks)
Oberyn Calderon
Sep. 13th, 2017 12:23 pm (UTC)
Weird season already
I'm sorry to hear about Gang Green losing. I really really would like a throwback to where the real power on the East Coast was the Giants or the Jets. I was very surprised and pleased with the upset Kansas City was able to pull over Foxborough.

I went to see the Rams play out here in LA for the price of ooohhh....$6 haha. And the stadium was still kinda empty. Come out here and I'll treat you to a beer and a game!! Haha. Although I can't promise any real show of force from the Rams or Chargers :(
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