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Some Wins Are Better Than Others

Life is beautiful and full of joy...

... well, mostly. The Jets and the Giants both won, but Big Blue's win was much better than Gang Green's. The Jets played a wretched game against the Kansas City Chefs, who would be the worst team in the NFL if not for the existence of the Detroit Lions, and had to come from behind to win. There were a few highlights, sure -- some fantastic play from little Leon Washington, and an amazing catch by Coles for the winning touchdown -- but the way Brett Favre was playing had me wondering if maybe the Dolphins would give us back Chad Pennington if we asked really, really nicely. The playcalling was also suspect. Last week Thomas Jones ran for almost 160 yards. The Chefs have the worst run defense in the NFL. So what did the Jets do? They came out throwing, throwing, throwing. Sigh. Sometimes I think Mangini gets too clever for his own good.

The Giants' win over a tough Pittsburgh Steeler team was much more satisfying. Great hard-hitting game between two tough teams that are almost mirror images of each other. If you love defense, as I do, this was a game for you. The Steelers managed to shut down the Giants league-leading three-headed running attack, and stopped them repeatedly inside the ten, forcing them to settle for field goals again and again... but the Giants did at least keep Eli safe, while Big Ben was getting sacked repeatedly and making costly mistakes in the face of the relentless Giants pass rush. Even so, Pittsburgh seemed to have the game in hand until their long-snapper went out of the game with an injury, and his replacement hiked the ball five feet over the punter's head for a game-tying safety. You could feel the momentum shift then, as the Giants' offense finally came alive.

So the G-Men are 6-1 and have passed their first big test. Next week, the Cowboys.

As for the Jets... oh, god, next week it's Buffalo, and the buzzsaw part of the schedule begins. If Brett doesn't stop throwing to the other team, the rest of the season could be grisly.

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maryling
Oct. 27th, 2008 01:21 am (UTC)
The Chefs have the worst run defense in the NFL. So what did the Jets do? They came out throwing, throwing, throwing. Sigh.

Not that I'm cheering for That Team, but I said exactly the same to my parents. The commentators just finished saying how the Chiefs are horrible on the ground, and the Jets go with four passes right out of the gate. Um. What?
kharrisbob
Oct. 27th, 2008 01:37 am (UTC)
An interesting game, indeed. A SAFETY? And I kept wondering why, after Berger looks like he tweaks his hammy, HE STILL TAKES THREE KICKS?!!!

Yeah, Ben did not look good, but at least one of his picks were tipped out of the receiver's hands. If not for Colon's penalty that called back a Steelers touchdown, this might have been the Steelers day... All-in-All a tough game for the Steelers, whose schedule doesn't get any easier next week AT the 'Skins... We still have Dallas, Indy, NE, San Diego and one more game against the rest of our division... and Jacksonville let Cleveland win again, so the division is still very much in play...

Kudos to the G-men, maybe we'll see you in the Big Game.
proudbronco
Oct. 27th, 2008 01:44 am (UTC)
The Giants-Steelers game was a delight to watch. I love defense but watching my Broncos play defense is like watching a JV defense. At least with the Chargers losing in London, the odds of them winning the division by default are steadfastly improving.
wtf_matey
Oct. 27th, 2008 01:49 am (UTC)
I'm not so sure the lions are quite the most pathetic team in the NFL, have you seen the bangles play this season? It's just sad.
mightyix
Oct. 29th, 2008 11:39 pm (UTC)
Indeed. I need to defend my Lions. (I'm a fan, and yes, I attend therapy for it... one playoff win in 50 years... SIGH)

Then Bengals are at least giving the Lions a run for the money as the worst team in football.
serialkiller
Oct. 27th, 2008 01:57 am (UTC)
hypothetical:

giants and jets make the super bowl in the same year.

who do you root for?

as for me? same old cards. defensive lapses and a horrible non-call in the third quarter led to a panther victory that shouldn't have happened.

feh.
orbasm
Oct. 27th, 2008 01:58 am (UTC)
oops
ok, so yeah, that's my wife's account.

oops.
donyoung
Oct. 27th, 2008 02:51 am (UTC)
Detroit Lions
I have to agree that the Lion's are the worst team in the league and unfortunately for me they are the home team (I have to root for the home team). I am surprised to see anyone else thinks they can compete (I would gladly trade the position the Bengals are in with the position the Lions are in.) The Lions have Calvin Johnson and Ernie Sims and that is it. It is pretty sad when the best thing that has happened for the Lions is Matt Millen getting fired and the second best thing that happened is that getting some good draft picks for Roy Williams.

The Giants - Steelers game was very exciting to watch and was well played for the most part (except for the long snap). I do think the Kenny Phillips could have pulled up instead of plowing into M. Moore.

Any chance you enjoy hockey Mr. Martin and want to write a post about it? :) Then we can talk about the Detroit Red Wings! Basketball? We can talk about the Detroit Pistons and the Michigan State Spartans. Football, not so much, evem the Wolverines are down this year and the Spartans are not quite ready for primetime.
bjonjak
Oct. 27th, 2008 03:02 am (UTC)
Ex Pack Fan knows Brett
With every passing Sunday, those of us left in Wisconsin give more and more thanks to Ted Thompson for getting rid of Brett Favre. I tell you what, I love Favre, I defended him to the death when he was wearing Green and Gold, but it's amazing how much more obvious the flaws in his game are when he's playing for another team (love of country, love of women, love of team, it's all the same...it makes you kind of blind).

You know what I saw in the NFC championship game with Brett last year against the Giants. I saw a 37 year old man who was COLD, who wanted to go inside, who threw an interception rather than go to the Super Bowl. The meltdowns are only going to get worse.

Your Giants, on the other hand, are the real deal. The Steelers are a much better team than anyone gives them credit for (if only they'd protect Ben...it's painful watching him get pounded). That Safety though...man what a beautiful game and then such a stupid play. But the Giants deserved it. Look for them to make another Super run...but they won't be playing the Jets (even though that would bring my beloved Pack a 1st round pick).

Chau....
kitkaterg
Oct. 27th, 2008 03:28 am (UTC)
The Kansas City Chefs?

I wonder if they make good chili.
YUM.
bojojoti
Oct. 27th, 2008 07:47 am (UTC)
Best tailgating in the NFL.
darthparadox
Oct. 27th, 2008 03:50 pm (UTC)
And barbeque. Mmm.
dancater42
Oct. 27th, 2008 06:09 am (UTC)
The 49ers proved that despite a change in coaching they could not currently fight there way out of a wet paper bag. I hope Singletary makes something happen.

I actually got to watch the Steeler/Giant game. It was a good game I love the defensive grinds. The Giants defense was very good its running game shone for moments but failed to find a single yard for others. The giant weakness in the Giant line up is obviously at wide receiver. Still class of the NFC no doubt.

As for the Jets yeah well I guess an ugly win is still a win. A team is a composite of players, coaches and management where everyone shares a basic vision and strategy. This is the secret of the dynastic teams and the common flaw in the downtrodden franchises is they don't have it. Currently the Jets do not have it.
bojojoti
Oct. 27th, 2008 07:47 am (UTC)
My KC Chiefs are substituting in the water boy and old cheerleaders for hurt and idiotic players, and we still had a chance of winning today. Astounding.
legion_i_am
Oct. 27th, 2008 09:31 am (UTC)
Love Brett, gad he's yours
A Madison Native here who was glad Bret went away. I (we) generally love him to death. And he has been all that is great in the game. But the frustration you feel at watching him execute a brilliant drive down the field only to throw it to the defense at the last minute... that's the stuff anuerisms are made of.
sleigh
Oct. 27th, 2008 11:11 am (UTC)
"The Jets played a wretched game against the Kansas City Chefs, who would be the worst team in the NFL if not for the existence of the Detroit Lions..."

Excuse me, but I think you're forgetting my city's woeful 0-8 Cincinnati Bengals.
grrm
Oct. 27th, 2008 06:27 pm (UTC)
The Bengals
The Bengals may be 0-8, but from what I've seen this season, I suspect they could still beat the Lions or the Chiefs. They gave the Jets a tough game and took the Giants to overtime.
scholarinexile
Oct. 27th, 2008 01:05 pm (UTC)
As a Pittsburgher, I naturally found the game a bit frustrating...our defense shined for the most part, but we made a lot of goofy errors that cost us the win. Your Giants did a terrific job, though...it was a well-earned victory for them.
nparisi
Oct. 27th, 2008 02:55 pm (UTC)
Hey George: Even as a lifelong Cowboys fan, I wouldn't call us a "big test" right now. Not with all these injuries. Yeah, I'm making pre-emptive excuses, but my Boys are a shell of themselves right now. Now, by the time of their next meeting, THAT will be a big test for both teams, I'm sure.

Eight more days until a much bigger win for ALL of us.

Cheers, Nick.
persephonecalls
Oct. 27th, 2008 03:27 pm (UTC)
Let the man play
I admit to being a bit biased, as a long time Green Bay fan and therefore a Farve fan, but I'm also a New Yorker. I appreciate the frustration that NY fans felt watching the Jets make mistakes, but the thing about Farve is that you have to LET HIM PLAY. The Jets knew his record with interceptions. He takes chances, and sometimes is brilliantly rewarded and sometimes is intercepted. What you DON'T do as a coach is make him stop throwing because of an interception. I agree in this case, against the worst run defense, that the ball should have been on the ground more at the beginning of the game, but try not to be so bleak in looking at the future...Let Farve be Farve. I'm more concerned about the coaching decisions than the QB decisions.
the12judge
Oct. 27th, 2008 07:11 pm (UTC)
Next week
I think Brett throws to the other team to keep the crowd in the game... ok, that's reaching a little, but I guess a win is a win, even if it's ugly. I'm just not sure a similar performance of throwing 3 INTs in a game against Buffalo is winnable for the Jets.

As for the G-men v. Dallas... the Cowboys are my team, so I'm hoping that Dallas can get things together and make it a good game. Right now, Big D is for Defense. I'm not really into defensive struggles though, so I'm hoping Romo will be feeling better and maybe we can have a shootout. :)
desertrose227
Oct. 27th, 2008 08:49 pm (UTC)
Break in
Wow. What a way to ruin your day! I am glad that you and Parris are ok.
nycfalcon
Oct. 27th, 2008 08:58 pm (UTC)
Boy oh boy. I was very upset during the Giants game. Bogging down in the green-zone was extremely frustrating to watch. The gift from fortune and Eli's fourth quarter play was a better stress reliever than a three-finger scotch.

I thought the worm turned in the Giants favor with Toomer's great layout 4th down catch in the previous possession. Although they ran three lackluster plays immediately after, that field goal was important in allowing the team to stay focused and still have confidence in winning the game. Had the Giants not gotten that score I would argue that they would have played tighter.

On both offense and defense, it looks to me like they are physically punishing the opposition in ways they haven't since '90.
bbeitel
Oct. 27th, 2008 11:29 pm (UTC)
Hey, and the Seahawks managed to win! Ride the Leaonard Weaver express folks! Ha ha! By the time Hasslebeck gets back, we might have a shot at 6-10!
ser_steveo
Oct. 28th, 2008 12:20 am (UTC)
Hope is fading.
You know, it's funny... All preseason long I listened to the ESPN and co. guys talking about how the Chargers are the favorite to go to the super bowl. Also the players themselves talking about "unfinished business" and "we're hungrier than ever." Bull-crap. This team is so unmotivated, unprepared, and undisciplined that it makes me sick to my stomach. The offense is fine. They are not the problem here, this putrid defense is! Come on you wimps, just because Merriman's out doesn't mean you automatically tank the season. New game, same results; NO pass rush, NO pressure AT ALL, poor tackling, no 3rd down stops, stupid penalties, no picks, nothing. No wonder we're ranked DEAD LAST in pass defense, at this pace we will not only miss the playoffs, but be lucky to finish 8-8. Don't believe you're own hype Chargers, go show it!!!
vokuro88
Oct. 28th, 2008 01:43 pm (UTC)
as a michigan resident, i'm proud you mentioned detroit, albeit it's them lions.

you cool with me, braw.
kaners78
Oct. 28th, 2008 09:30 pm (UTC)
As a Steelers fan, I'm not quite as excited as yourself Mr. Martin, but from the highlights it looked like a good game which is sometimes all that we can ask (or hope) for. I know that you don't like comments about items other than your chosen topic, but would you please change the Of Fire and Ice sample on your web page? I enjoy Tyrion as much as any faithful hound, yet I hunger for a hint of what is to come. Thank you for your consideration.
benderbot2000
Nov. 7th, 2008 08:28 pm (UTC)
Just the way Favre throws...
That many interceptions from Favre doesn't surprise me, just the way he plays. If I'm not mistaken, he has both records for my career interceptions and career touchdowns.

He was throwing like that 50 years ago when he started playing ball, style won't change anytime soo.
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