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A Dance With Dragons

No, it's not done.

Yes, I am aware that more than a year has passed since my last update. A lot of you have been emailing me to point that out. Thanks, but really, I did know. Unlike many of you out there, I got my copies of the Song of Ice & Fire calendar, so I knew what date it was.

No, I'm not planning to update the update, for reasons stated in the update itself. Until such time as I can write, "It's done," it will remain the last update... aside from what I may say here from time to time, on my Not-A-Blog.

I made a lot of progress on the book in the first half of 2008. So much so that I was optimistic that I would be done by the end of the year. Unfortunately, I did not make much progress on the book in the second half of 2008. Indeed, I made some regress. (That Sansa chapter I talked about finishing, for instance. It's still finished, but my editor and I decided it belongs in THE WINDS OF WINTER, not A DANCE WITH DRAGONS, so it's been moved into the next book. Sansa will not appear in DANCE.)

Some of the reasons were literary, arising from problems in the narrative itself. I'm not going to discuss them here, because I really do not like talking about questions I am still wrestling with on a work in progress. It never helps. Art is not a democracy, and these are problems I need to solve myself. Having a few hundred readers weigh in with their thoughts and opinions -- which seems to be what happens whenever I post here about DWD -- does not advance the process. I'm sorry, but that's true. I know that many of you would like to help me, but you can't. I have editors and I have two capable assistants, and that's sufficient. I'm the only one who can dance this dance.

Some of other reasons for the delay have nothing to do with the book itself. They're extra-literary, arising from other things in my life. I could sketch out some of them here, sure, but what good would it do? Those who are inclined to understand would send me messages of sympathy and support. Those are not so inclined would dismiss them as "excuses," or even "feeble excuses." A few will even go so far as to accuse me of lying.

That's the part that really bothers me. For the record, I have never lied about anything having to do with A DANCE WITH DRAGONS or the series as a whole. I have been wrong, yes. I have been wrong lots of time, especially when I've tried to predict how long it will take me to complete the book, or when it will be published. Being wrong is not the same as lying. Since the very beginning of this series, I have been guilty of being over-optimistic about how long it would take me to finish the next book, the next chapter, or the series as a whole. I cannot deny that. I have always been bad with deadlines... one reason why I did my best to avoid them for the first fifteen years of my career. That's an option I no longer have, however. Or at least will not have until A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE is complete.

That's the main reason why I no longer want to give any completion dates. I am sick and tired of people jumping down my throat when I miss them.

This latest flood of emails has worn down my resolve, however. So in hopes of quieting it, once more I will step into the breach --

I am trying to finish the book by June. I think I can do that. If I do, A DANCE WITH DRAGONS will likely be published in September or October.

(Yes, I am aware that I have previously said that I hoped to finish by the end of 2008. And before that, I said that I hoped to finish by June 2008, before I went to Spain and Portugal. And before that, I said I hoped to finish by the end of 2007. I know, I know, I know. No, I was not lying. I was wrong. And wrong again. And wrong before that. This time I hope that I am right. But you know, I can't swear that in blood. I write one chapter at a time. One page at a time. One word at a time. And then the next.)

That's all I have. But it's more than Amazon has, or anyone else.

The INSTANT that I finish the novel and put it in the mail to Bantam, I will post that fact here, just as I did for SUICIDE KINGS a few days ago. Until and unless you read that announcement here, believe nothing you hear from any other source.

Thanks for your continued support... and for your patience.


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Feb. 20th, 2009 04:31 pm (UTC)
If the story was bad, I wouldn't read it. If the quality was less, I'd say I wasn't willing to wait.

But considering I still say that a Song of Ice and Fire is one of the best series I've ever read? I'd rather it continues to be written at high quality, rather than hold to deadline.
Feb. 20th, 2009 04:43 pm (UTC)
I admire folks who are professional writers, especially fiction writers. It gets hard, and if aren't having fun in life in the mean times, what's the point?

Take your time, be happy, have fun.

Lots of love and support.
Feb. 20th, 2009 04:53 pm (UTC)
Take what time you need to. It's not as if the books don't bear re-reading, and in the meantime, the world is full of other things to read & see & do. Thanks for all your wonderful work.
Feb. 20th, 2009 04:54 pm (UTC)
I hope you dont let all of this stupid, morbid shit get you down! It is your story to tell. And I absolutly loved your response to all of the nay sayers! True true! I guess I am not one because I am used to this sort of thing. Ever heard of Jean M. Auel? Now there is an author who takes her time! Anyway's I just want you to know that I am excited about this book coming out. But,like you, I know there is more to life then the next release date. So do what you gotta do, and fuck the rest!
Feb. 20th, 2009 04:57 pm (UTC)
Don't Sweat It, George
The fact that you even keep a blog, letting us all in to see what you do and like, is cool. There will always be detractors, and always people who claim that they like your books but you're mistreating your fans. I have a hard time believing that you are fleecing your fans or otherwise maliciously mistreating those who enjoy your works. It sounds like too much work.

I'm a huge fan of your written work (I can't say I ever watched B&B or the 80s TZ series) and found the Dreamsongs collections far better than I'd even hoped. If you stopped ASOIAF now I'd still be happy for what I have, but I have to admit I'm greedy and I'd love more.

Don't let the vocal minority get you down; we all know that ADWD is a #1 book the moment it hits stores. You have at least as many fans who read your blog as so-called fans that are really just entitled whiners that post here too, as well as thousands and thousands of fans who just enjoy your books and don't take to the 'net in force.

Armageddon Rag is an awesome book.
Feb. 20th, 2009 04:58 pm (UTC)
Please hang in there! Don't give up on those of us that are patient and loyal. It's neat to have fans, but ultimately, a writer writes for him or herself at their own pace. And that's the way it is. And life gets in the way for better or worse. Your fans who stick with you through the good and bad road blocks are the ones who are important. It's all about the story, and we'll wait patiently.

I'm a playwright and comic book writer. I understand.
Feb. 20th, 2009 05:00 pm (UTC)
LOL... I was like wasn't Dance with Dragons the last one?

We have the series and read them, but for some reason I was thinking that was the last one, because oddly my mind linked red with dragon. I know it's wierd.

No pressure on this front. I like your books and hope you finish the series- but whatever. :)
Take care.
Feb. 20th, 2009 05:01 pm (UTC)
Asking for patience from us is like asking a starving man to wait until after the blessing to gorge. We shall endure, but don't imagine for a moment that we aren't anxiously awaiting the next installment of what is arguably your magnum opus. It's your train, but we did buy tickets, which makes it a vested interest for us as well, even if we don't get to be the conductors.

Pilot safely, good Navigator.
Feb. 20th, 2009 05:02 pm (UTC)
Take you time, it's worth waiting for.
Greetings Mr. Martin!
I have never left you a comment but I follow your blog because I am a huge fan of the song of ice and fire. It is awesomely amazing! Actually when I started to read it, I didn't know it was more than one book, or that the series was not yet complete. I'll admit I was upset at my friend who gave me the book (but not you!)but only because he didn't tell me!
Well, When I reached the end, I put them all aside and started checking for updates on the next book. After some time I started game of thrones again, and thought maybe it will be ready by the time I've read through the series again. It was! And I was very happy! Feast for crows was as good as the others! I put them aside and read some other books. I read and enjoined Fever dream, not your usual vampires! After sometime I picked up game of thrones again, and thought maybe the next one will be ready by the time I finishes them again.... And you know what? I'm reading feast for crows for the third time now, and it was even better this time than the first two times I read it!!! Every time I reread my FAVORITE books I catch something that I missed before. Sometimes a half hint in a sentence, sometimes a tiny bit of foreshadowing, sometimes just a really beautiful / ironic image.
There is just so much in each of these book. Surly this must have taken a lot of thinking and hard work, writing and rewriting and rewriting again, and you know what? It shows in the quality. I am SO THANKFUL to you that you are not just whipping them out to appease those people who give you a hard time and accuse you of lying. I really want Dance with Dragons to be as good as all the others, so please don't rush, fill it with all the rich details and images it deserves, and don't stop until YOU are happy.
Also I would like offer some of my own personal opinions;
1)You are entitled to a life. What you choose to do with that life is up to you sir. If all you want to do is sit on your bum picking your nose, I say have at er! If you want to watch football do so and enjoy it! You see I also have a life, and I have more things to do than just read your book, there are in fact other books I can read while I wait for you to finish the next one. It is not a big problem to me if you have a life of your own
2) You are under no obligation to write only for my pleasure, if you are inspired to write a book that is not a part of my favorite series, please do so and post about it, because I may enjoy that book as well.
3) Inspiration cannot be forced. Just trying harder is not an option. Rushing things makes them crappy. You are a brilliant author, you don't produce crap because you know this.
4) I am generally a nice person but if people bugged me they way they have been bugging you I would get seriously pissed off.
5) on lying, it would be nice if we could predict the future wouldn't it? Trying can sometimes get us into trouble. Don't worry about it. I know the truth (which is that you do not have powers to see into the future and know when the book will be finished.)

So to sum up. Enjoy your life and take your time. I am really looking forward to reading Dance with Dragons, and it is worth waiting for!
Also you won't see my blog on here, because I am over on blogspot. I'm at moonbeamdisco.blogspot.com You are more than welcome to check it out if you want to know more about me!!
S. Brykczynski
Feb. 20th, 2009 05:05 pm (UTC)
The Immortal words of Sandra Boynton
Don't let the Turkeys get you down.
1. Artists are...well...artists.
2. You are who you are.
3. Anybody who tells you not to watch football is a snooty moron.
4. Depression and anger are two sides of the same coin. Be angry its more fun.
5. Take your time. Take it easy. Smile. Laugh - especially at people who are vitriolic about things over which they have no control.
Sixth and lastly - write them down as asses.
Feb. 20th, 2009 05:08 pm (UTC)
Take your time. There's lots of great writers and great books, out there to keep me occupied, in the meantime.

Best wishes and don't let the bastards wear you down.

and, while I think of it, Thank you!
Feb. 20th, 2009 05:08 pm (UTC)
From south-america
My friend (since i love you i guess we re friends : )) here, im Peru, we, your readers suports you too. Take your time. Take ours if you need some of it XD... but please... do not rush on writing! give us the pleasure of your fully timed art. thanks a lot and we ll await you Sir.
Valar morgulis.
Feb. 20th, 2009 05:10 pm (UTC)
I trust you, Mr. Martin. I believe that taking longer is always better than rushing something. Of course I wish that the book was done, but if wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak. I wish you luck in writing Songs, as well as your other works (I am really looking forward to Warriors). I have to say, I am sad that Sansa will not be in the book, as I really enjoy her story, but I am thrilled that I will see Tyrion and Dany again.

And I also want to express support for your above statement to your detractors. Anyone that is that rude to you is not a true fan, and really ought to shut up. I hope that you do not think that all of your fans are of that opinion, and that it does not deter you from your excellent work.
Feb. 20th, 2009 05:18 pm (UTC)
My Heart Goes Out
I am saddened to hear about your trials and troubles. It sickens me to know that people could be so whiny and cruel as to do such things as you have mentioned. I find it amazing that you have so many things going on at once and have a modicum of sanity, especially with so many people buzzing around giving their input. As a writer myself, I know how hard it can be. But to think of all the stress you are under from not only the big guys, but from your alleged fans is enough to crack any normal human being. As a fan of the Song of Ice and Fire series, I know I am eagerly awaiting the next book, but more than anything I understand. I only finished my first book recently and it took me over 3 years. I kept giving time tables, but in the end it never worked out that way.
I wish you the best in everything you do. It will take as long as it takes and everyone has no choice but to deal with that. Otherwise, they should try writing it themselves and see how hard it is. They expect perfection, but are unreasonable in the time they expect you to finish it. Good luck in your work and your life. And thank you for creating such wonderful works of art and sharing them with us.
Feb. 20th, 2009 05:20 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry for all the criticism you have gotten over this. I believe you are one of the greatest writers ever to live and you certainly don't deserve to hear many of those comments.

I think a lot of the fan frustration stems from the fact that your updates on here usually talk about Wildcards, Appearances, Football, etc.. and rarely mention anything about the work you are doing on A DANCE WITH DRAGONS. That gives the appearance to a lot of people that it's not a high priority to you and makes people frustrated.

Anyways, it is nice to see an update posted although from your recent posts I can see some of your reasons for trying to not mention it very often. I think these books are the best I have ever read and I am glad you are taking your time to do the masterpiece you have created justice.
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